pass the parcel seed trading

AlabamaJack said:
who is going to be the "moderator" for this one?
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I think you just volunteered!



My suggestion, oh glorious leader, would be to repost the information in July and see who signs up for the round robin. If we have lots and lots of people interested, we can talk about splitting it into two groups then.

By July people will have a better idea of what varieties of peppers they'll have available.


Do we want to have any rules or caveats about seed purity?
 
Ciao a tutti-

..wait for it..ahem..are tomato seeds allowed or is this a pepper only thingie? *sheepishly avoids getting hit with composted nagas* :mouthonfire:
 
Pam said:
I think you just volunteered!

My suggestion, oh glorious leader, would be to repost the information in July and see who signs up for the round robin. If we have lots and lots of people interested, we can talk about splitting it into two groups then.

By July people will have a better idea of what varieties of peppers they'll have available.

Do we want to have any rules or caveats about seed purity?
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Personally, I would like pure strains if possible...that's all I plan on putting in, unless it is a hybrid someone is proud of and then if it is labelled properly, no problemo..JMO..

I will tell you what Ms. Pam, I will be the moderator if you will be cochair and back me up incase of the unforseen happening (like another heart attack), of course if that happens before I retire, I will get another 6 weeks off for free...July sounds good to me....

Sorellina said:
Ciao a tutti-

..wait for it..ahem..are tomato seeds allowed or is this a pepper only thingie? *sheepishly avoids getting hit with composted nagas* :mouthonfire:
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That, my dear Sorellina is up the the majority, makes no difference to me but I know all mine will be hybrids since I have so many so close together and am not going to take steps to avoid interspecies mating...

cheezydemon said:
It's all for nothing if Dethwind never comes back.
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Cheezy, we still have each other.. :lol: and can start anew...


You know, I would not mind including a private contact number...not to be posted on the board, but to each member that was on the trade list...would this not insure the legitimacy of the trade?
 
Here is a suggestion, something a bit different. Have a mod start a new sticky thread where the only posts that are allowed are what that person has. They can include: name, how many, and any limitations. That way people who regulary trade seeds, or who have seeds avaliable, can have 1 post and can edit it when their supply changes. Something else, they can put an expiration date on their post where a mod would delete the post after the specified date.

For example

Title:
DrHavanger's Seed Bank

Message:
50 7pot
250 Naga
111 Jalapeno
276 corno di toro
67 kung pao
675 Hungarian Hot Wax

Please only a max of 5 seeds of each pepper, only ships to Australia.

**** Expires 05/16/2008 ****
 
AlabamaJack said:
Personally, I would like pure strains if possible...that's all I plan on putting in, unless it is a hybrid someone is proud of and then if it is labelled properly, no problemo..JMO..
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But that's what I mean, do we set any standards for seed saving to reduce the chance of cross breeds. Some people go to elaborate lengths to keep their seeds pure, but other people, eh... not so much. Maybe we should set some guidelines.


I will tell you what Ms. Pam, I will be the moderator if you will be cochair and back me up incase of the unforseen happening (like another heart attack), of course if that happens before I retire, I will get another 6 weeks off for free...July sounds good to me....
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You can be the good cop, I'll be the bad cop!



That, my dear Sorellina is up the the majority, makes no difference to me but I know all mine will be hybrids since I have so many so close together and am not going to take steps to avoid interspecies mating...
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Tomatoes are actually easier to keep pure, if I'm not mistaken.


You know, I would not mind including a private contact number...not to be posted on the board, but to each member that was on the trade list...would this not insure the legitimacy of the trade?
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I don't know how it would insure anything, but I would be very cautious about handing out phone numbers. People can get really weird sometimes.
 
The private # is a great idea AJ. If we are trusting each other with a bunch of seeds, what is a #? They can be changed if some real moron gets it. Plus we can report harassment on here and most people wouldn't want to be ostracised here.

As for pure, even seeds from websites are not always pure.

IMHO all types of peppers are some sort of hybrid, but I see the concern.

Maybe a more specific label would be good. "Isolated Dorset Naga" Or "Hail Mary, I hope it's still a naga" etc.

I see this box as more of a filling in factor for my crop. Not for my Main stay.

I may be far less concerned with pure strains than others, so feel free to disagree.
 
I will take a shot at writing up some guidelines/rules based on this threads inputs and get them posted for comments. As far as the phone number goes...I think that I will suggest it as an option that is available and not a requirement...
 
Just as a little suggestion and not meaning to sound rude but clear writing on the packets of seeds helps. I had seeds from a Pass the Parcel elsewhere that said "Red Jaij" I assumed it was red Thai :confused: Honestly the only word I could see it might be though was "Jaij" and that's with having excellent eyesight for reading, just not with messy writing. Maybe the person wasn't sure what it was so Cheezy D's idea is good. I mean Red Jaij I ask you? I even put the stupid name into the chileman database :oops:
 
Ciao a tutti-

Excellent discussion!

You're absolutely right, Pam, tomatoes are much easier to prevent crossing. I'll tell you what I do. Toronto's summers are notoriously humid, which affects how pollen granules travel. They end up getting stuck together and the flower abcisses and falls off. Because of this, it's very difficult to bag blossoms here, something I did early on because I'm so anal about things like that. I got really frustrated, so I talked to several long-time gardeners to work out a solution. If you take the very first ripe fruits from your tomato plants, the pollinating insects have not arrived in huge numbers yet, and crossing is very low, between 0-5%. That's what I do now.

How do all of you collect your pepper seeds and what, if anything, do you do to prevent crossing? I've been told that peppers cross exceedingly easily.
 
labeling is going to be one of the requirements...labels printed...most people that have a computer have a printer also...or just use a typewriter if you don't have a printer...
 
If printing isn't able for everyone I think just a little care over hand writing though AJ, if you know your hand writing is poor than print in capitals (not joined up ones), just make it legible.
 
Sorellina said:
You're absolutely right, Pam, tomatoes are much easier to prevent crossing. I'll tell you what I do. Toronto's summers are notoriously humid, which affects how pollen granules travel. They end up getting stuck together and the flower abcisses and falls off. Because of this, it's very difficult to bag blossoms here, something I did early on because I'm so anal about things like that. I got really frustrated, so I talked to several long-time gardeners to work out a solution. If you take the very first ripe fruits from your tomato plants, the pollinating insects have not arrived in huge numbers yet, and crossing is very low, between 0-5%. That's what I do now.
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That's good to know. We've got heat and humidity all summer, so I'll try and save seeds early if I'm going to save them.


How do all of you collect your pepper seeds and what, if anything, do you do to prevent crossing? I've been told that peppers cross exceedingly easily.
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I bag the blossoms. I used to bag the whole plant, but that gets annoying after awhile and messy after a few thunderstorms.
 
Agreed, but most of us probably do not practice strict measures to prevent crossing.

Am I right that a F1 hybrid will produce fruit of an unknown, but fairly predictable type, but that the seeds from it will inherently be unstable?

I guess I was just wondering if a 1/2 scorpion, 1/2 hab would be a bad thing other than not being an "accepted" variety.
 
rainbowberry said:
If printing isn't able for everyone I think just a little care over hand writing though AJ, if you know your hand writing is poor than print in capitals (not joined up ones), just make it legible.
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The problem that I saw on when I had the box was trying to write on the plastic of small bags. it was a little shaky to begin with, and by the time everyone had a chance to fondle the packets, some of the ink had rubbed off. So, I think printing clearly on a paper label might be an option if someone doesn't have easy access to a printer.
 
I second the idea mentioned about a minimum post count of say 100. Im with Cheezy about hybrids Im growing for fun really.... unless we partition the pure breds from the commoners or half breeds.
 
Ok, well, I am more interested in pure seed. Everybody has the occasional accident, but it you're not going to make any effort to produce pure seed you should label the packages accordingly.

Actually, maybe we should consider seperate round robins for folks going to the extra trouble to isolate for pure seeds, and those who aren't.
 
I would agree to that -- but wouldnt everyone want to have a shot at the pure seed? You would need and underground society, a Skull and Bones if you will, for the "pure" growers. Or keep the pure seeds to yourself and hash out the deals with individuals with the same.
I am not at the level where pure seed is going to make me or break me... I dont have the where with all or the experience YETto do so
 
Well, most of what we're doing in on the honor system. And I do hope anyone not making any effort to isolate for pure seed out to be honest enough to label their seeds accordingly.
 
I would be seriously surprised if more than 2-3% of the people growing on this site are isolating or "double bagging" for pure strains. I have little enough growing space without a "solitary" cell ....or multiple isolation chambers.

99% of us wouldn't know the difference between a pure strain and a slightly different hybrid (except officer Omri, of course).

How critical is this??? Is anyone using this as their primary source of seeds??? (of course I am but I don't care too much;))

*watch now! as the Pam, in it's natural habitat, quotes someone from above cheezydemon! Effectively trying to cut him out of the conversation...... absolutely fascinating! An endearing defense mechanism of this strange creature. Endlessly entertaining!*

Quote-Robert Forester of the National Geographic Society in his study of north american primates.
 
This seems to be getting a little out of hand don't you think? If I want pure seed I will order from the professionals. Or do trades one on one under the premise that the trade is for pure seed. This is supposed to be a fun thing.... I say keep it simple. :lol: JMO

Dale
 
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