PaulG 2014

Devv · Nov 26, 2014

Happy Turkey day Paul!

Enjoy good food and family.

Roguejim · Nov 26, 2014

PaulG said:
Got it. Thanks, Penny

@Rick. I thought fuel prices were dropping? Sorry to hear you and your
neighbors are getting jacked around on that deal, buddy.

Started some Aji seeds on 11/15. Got these on 11/20. These seeds were paper towel dried:

There are a couple more hooks peeking up this evening. Should be cotys tomorrow. I guess that means the start of the 2015 season!

PaulG, talk to me. Why so early? I know the amarillos require a long growing season. Is that why? Do manzanos take long to produce pods? This will be my first season with manzanos, so do I need to start the seeds germinating now??

PaulG · Nov 26, 2014

The ajis and manzanos are the last to ripen up in the Fall, even when I start them at this time of year.
If I start the ajis in Jan, they don't really start ripening until into October due to their 10-month grow season.
They like the cooler weather, and the hot summers always slow them down. This is my third season
with both, and this year's ahi crop was the first I thought was really worthwhile, and I lost 40-60 pods
to wind damage. Theat's what we get for trying to grow varieties outside their natural niche!

Roguejim · Nov 26, 2014

PaulG said:
The ajis and manzanos are the last to ripen up in the Fall, even when I start them at this time of year.
They like the cooler weather, and the hot summers always slow them down. This is my fourth season
with both, and this year's ahi crop was the first I thought was really worthwhile, and I lost 40-60 pods
to wind damage. Theat's what we get for trying to grow varieties outside their natural niche!

I see. Do manzanos require much shade? How many hours of direct sunlight?

PaulG · Nov 26, 2014

Devv said:
Happy Turkey day Paul!

Enjoy good food and family.

Thanks, my friend. Same to you.

Gobble, gobble :drooling:

Roguejim said:
I see. Do manzanos require much shade? How many hours of direct sunlight?

I grow the manzanos in dappled shade with decent sun during some periods of the day.
No direct sun during the hot part of the day, but morning and evening sun lis okay, at least in our yard.

bpwilly · Nov 27, 2014

Jim, Paul

Just a side observation from this year, This was my first year to grow a few Manzanoes and Rocotos, and they seemed to do OK up here where they were in the sun most of the day, but since it does not get too hot, that might have helped. One thing I did notice is that with the exception of a couple of plants, they really take a long time to get up to the fruiting stage. Once the weather started to get cooler around here this fall, the ones that had very few pods, all of a sudden got a bunch and the pods grew very fast compared to the ones that got pods in the summer. But they did not get ripe before the weather got to cold. I ended up with 1/2 - 3/4 of a 5 gallon bucket of very green unripe peppers. Not fun to see something that close but no cigar!

The plus side is that the ones that did get ripe were really worth it! We just need a 18 month year!

Roguejim · Nov 27, 2014

bpwilly said:
Jim, Paul

Just a side observation from this year, This was my first year to grow a few Manzanoes and Rocotos, and they seemed to do OK up here where they were in the sun most of the day, but since it does not get too hot, that might have helped. One thing I did notice is that with the exception of a couple of plants, they really take a long time to get up to the fruiting stage. Once the weather started to get cooler around here this fall, the ones that had very few pods, all of a sudden got a bunch and the pods grew very fast compared to the ones that got pods in the summer. But they did not get ripe before the weather got to cold. I ended up with 1/2 - 3/4 of a 5 gallon bucket of very green unripe peppers. Not fun to see something that close but no cigar!

The plus side is that the ones that did get ripe were really worth it! We just need a 18 month year!

Hmm, maybe not worth it here in southern Oregon. I'll be watching PaulG's experiment with the early germination. Or, have you tried this early of a germination before, Paul?

PaulG · Nov 27, 2014

I started the ajis and manzanos last season in August, so they were over a year old
when they started ripening up pods. However, that start was way too early. Before,
I had started in Jan. and that seemed a bit late. So this year the Nov. 15th start date
was a compromise.

The Aji Amarillo and Manzano are not the easiest peppers to grow and nurture; I guess
we just have to accept what we can get in the PNW! Every pod a victory!

bpwilly · Nov 28, 2014

I agree Paul.
Each pod is definitely a victory. It feels like a good accomplishment to grow these peppers in a climate that they are not native to and is so different. I did not mean to make it sound like it is not a good plan, Heck, I was very pleased to get the ripe ones I did, just that I also ended up loosing more than I got to ripen. That just means I need to try a few things different this year.

They are a very different pepper than what I am use to with the black seeds, the thick juicy flesh and heat as a bonus!

Last year I started them all in January and I am not sure if that is was late or not. Just more variables to add into the plan! I will be watching Paul as well. Only direction to go is up!

PaulG · Nov 30, 2014

"Only direction to go is up!"

That's right, Bill!

Speaking of up, the c. rhomboidium that Jacen gave me has actually accelerated in growth.
I had to put it on the floor cuz it was hitting the roof on the shelf. It's over 4' now:

Tape don't lie

The pubescence is very noticeable in this pic:

Here are some of the other greenhouse denizens.

The 7 Pot Barrakapore cuttings are looking kinda peaked. I cut off all the dried up flower
buds after this pic. But the last pod of the 2014 season is ripe! There's one for ya Pic1!

The little bhut has some nice looking growth developing:

Texas Pequin:

When I was cutting the c. chacoense off, I discovered this volunteer plant coming
up under the foliage. Looks certain to be another healthy little chaco. Since it
forked, I've been cutting off the little flower buds as they get big enough:

Now it's time to hold my breath to see if they all survive the winter! In the meantime, in the grow shelf...

Manzano seedlings:

Aji Amarillo seedlings:

I hope to arrive at Spring Plant Out with 3 healthy specimens of each.
Some of these look pretty good. A few (half-dozen or so) puny weak
ones have fallen by the wayside.

Nightshade · Nov 30, 2014

Beautiful Paul that rhomb is excellent mine is getting tall fast but has a lot of branching happening yours seems to not be showing any branching. is it weak like is it going to snap?

PaulG · Nov 30, 2014

Nightshade said:
Beautiful Paul that rhomb is excellent mine is getting tall fast but has a lot of branching happening yours seems to not be showing any branching. is it weak like is it going to snap?

No branching at all, just little growth buds with small leaves at each leaf node.

I have supported the plant to keep it from just falling over, or getting broken when
I'm trying to move it. It seems very healthy.

PaulS · Dec 1, 2014

Seedlings already! I'm getting itchy trigger finger. I said I'd wait until jan but I'm not sure I can....

RocketMan · Dec 1, 2014

Are you planning on putting that rhomb in the ground at plant out or keeping it in the pot? If you get it in the ground it's going to be a monster! I made a really great sauce out of Aji Amarillo and Rocottos, so I can only imagine that the Aji Amarillo / Manzanno would be just as good. Hope you get the number of plants you want from them.

Cheers,
Bill

PaulG · Dec 1, 2014

PaulS said:
Seedlings already! I'm getting itchy trigger finger. I said I'd wait until jan but I'm not sure I can....

These are the only ones I'm starting now, Paul. They have such a long grow season
I have to give them plenty of time to get going. I'll start a couple of rounds of chinense
during January, and the annuums later.

Good luck controlling that itchy trigger finger!

RocketMan said:
Are you planning on putting that rhomb in the ground at plant out or keeping it in the pot? If you get it in the ground it's going to be a monster! I made a really great sauce out of Aji Amarillo and Rocottos, so I can only imagine that the Aji Amarillo / Manzanno would be just as good. Hope you get the number of plants you want from them.

Cheers,
Bill

Hey, Bill. I'll probably plant it in a container, at least 7 gallon, probably larger.

I'm going to mix a little manzano and ahi powder for fun. the aji/manzano sauce
must have been killer!

Devv · Dec 1, 2014

Looking good Paul!

3 weeks and I pull the trigger

That Rhom has a crazy growth habit!

PaulG · Dec 1, 2014

Devv said:
Looking good Paul!

3 weeks and I pull the trigger

That Rhom has a crazy growth habit!

Thanks, buddy. I'll be pullin' for ya in three weeks! :party:

I think 'Rhombo' somehow acquired the Goat's Weed Cross gene :lol:

I don't know if I can handle another 10' plant :rofl:

Portuge · Dec 1, 2014

Evening Paul, received your care package today. Definitely going to give the powders a try... Loved the last batch of powders you sent me the last time, I know these will just be as good. Thank you very much for the extras you included as well...

bpwilly · Dec 2, 2014

Wow, I got a nice care package from Paul as well today. Nice looking selection of powders. Going to try these out soon.

Here is a picture of the surprise I received.

Looking forward to try someone else's powders.
Thanks so much for the extreme kindness. This will spice up the holidays.

PaulG · Dec 2, 2014

The pleasure is mine, fellas. Hope you enjoy them.