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chilliman said:
LOL, some plants are !!! But wind and insect transfer would be the greatest concern.
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It's been many years since I did botany at TAFE, but from memory I understood flowers need to be fertilised to produce a fruit (pod).

What I was getting at is how does this occur if the flowers/plants are covered? How do the bees do what they need to do?

I understand the concern of cross pollination and why it is undesirable. Just curious as to how the fruit sets.
 
You will have to pollinate with mothers & by hand, I use a small paint brush and just collect it first (from ture strain) then transfer onto the desired plant. ( sorta wipe mother - wipe reciver and repeat everyday for a couple of days.
If I get lazy and have not brought the brush, I break off one of the mother flowers lightly and brush it direct into the flowers of the reciver. ) This will apply to most flowering plants or Angiosperma family.

IAN
 
chilliman said:
You will have to pollinate with mothers & by hand, I use a small paint brush and just collect it first (from ture strain) then transfer onto the desired plant. ( sorta wipe mother - wipe reciver and repeat everyday for a couple of days.
If I get lazy and have not brought the brush, I break off one of the mother flowers lightly and brush it direct into the flowers of the reciver. )

IAN
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Ok that's sort of how I thought it would have to be done. As for me my plants will most likely be all cross pollinated.

Hopefully the fact that I keep the same varieties closer together will lessen any impact on my plants.

Not that I'm going to sell any seed, just hope to get the same type of chillies over time for my sauces.
 
stillmanz said:
Moving on about what I posted above.
"I have a question. How do you guys ensure pure seeds from your home grown pods?
Do u guys bag the flowers or build boxes foryour plants?
Just curious?"

I only ask as I have alotr of insect life in my growing area and I have had lots of crosses if I do not bag flowers.
I saw this really cool box of tuel that some farm puts over its tomatoe plants. it was cool.
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Hey Mick do you have any pics or more info on that, it sounds interesting, I also heard of a way where tin foil is used over the buds and also a dab of glue?
 
LordViykor said:
It's been many years since I did botany at TAFE, but from memory I understood flowers need to be fertilised to produce a fruit (pod).

What I was getting at is how does this occur if the flowers/plants are covered? How do the bees do what they need to do?

I understand the concern of cross pollination and why it is undesirable. Just curious as to how the fruit sets.
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Chillies self pollinate. The flower has both a male and female part. I would show you a pic but can't figure out how to change the gif to a jpg and load it up onto photoshop. So I will try and explain:There are two female parts. At the bottom is the ovaries and the thing that sticks out of the middle of the flower is the Stigma. The male parts surround this part and they are called the Filament, Anther and Stamen. So if the flower is tied up in a bag then you know that only pollen from that flower will pollinate the female part. Once it has pollinated and fruit starts to form obviously you take the material off.
I haven't self pollinated by hand yet but you can also give the plant a bit of a shake to release the pollen.
 
Good call I have forgotten about the shake method ! But also I think i will choose to use mothers for best genes on a large scale seed & fruit production.
 
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Hope this helps
 
Vespucci said:
What about air currents?
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If you mean how is air going to get throughthe material? - That is because there are still tiny holes in it and it can also still get some sun, its not like a blanket but like a fly screen.
But if you mean can air currents help pollinate then yes when they are uncovered but then they could cross pollinate if other chllies are around.
Not sure what you meant??
 
I presume he meant air circlulation which is vital for a healthy plant, Ie, if the CO2 drops too low, the plant will sufficate / grow moldy etc. Most material used for this does allow air to go through it, ie, it allows the plant to breathe, but the holes are small enough to stop pollen. You have to remember, pollen compared to the size of a CO2 molecule is huge, so they can easily make a mesh that stops pollen and allows air to go through :)
 
Yeah, I meant pollen floating on air currents and cross pollinating. The talk was about using fly nets, which wouldn't stop pollen.
 
Insect pollination is the greatest concern for me the likelyhood of polen making it through is unlikely no doubt possible but unlikely.... dependent I guess on how far apart the plants are set and how big the cages are.
 
stillmanz said:
Insect pollination is the greatest concern for me the likelyhood of polen making it through is unlikely no doubt possible but unlikely.... dependent I guess on how far apart the plants are set and how big the cages are.
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For sure. If they are far enough apart or one cage is down one side of the house and the other down the other side it would be extremely unlikely.
 
I have alot of native bees and normal bees in my yard ( lots of native flowering plants) and they are very successful at pollinating and cross polinating sometimes you get luckand creat something cool but hard when your chasing pure seeds lol
 
stillmanz said:
I have alot of native bees and normal bees in my yard ( lots of native flowering plants) and they are very successful at pollinating and cross polinating sometimes you get luckand creat something cool but hard when your chasing pure seeds lol
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Im the same ! Plenty of room just WAY to may insect and bee :hell:!
Not that I am fussed (with home chillis) as they are for my sauces ! ;)
 
stillmanz said:
Moving on about what I posted above.
"I have a question. How do you guys ensure pure seeds from your home grown pods?
Do u guys bag the flowers or build boxes foryour plants?
Just curious?"

I only ask as I have alotr of insect life in my growing area and I have had lots of crosses if I do not bag flowers.
I saw this really cool box of tuel that some farm puts over its tomatoe plants. it was cool.
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Yo Mick the master farter......! I do a few things. I trim back all flowers and fruit then build a fancy little box around it keeping all little squirts out! The seeds from these are good! also tea bags are good but the ratio of loss can be high!

Hope that helps,
Dave
 
Scorpion said:
Yo Mick the master farter......! I do a few things. I trim back all flowers and fruit then build a fancy little box around it keeping all little squirts out! The seeds from these are good! also tea bags are good but the ratio of loss can be high!

Hope that helps,
Dave
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Oh yeah I have heard of the tea bag thing too. Why do you think you get so many losses? Not enough oxygen or something?
 
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