food The Last Great Pizza Thread

I had to put on my sunglasses for that pizza Jay :)  Who needs the sun when you have that magnificent glowing disc of cheesy goodness.  Some tatsy looking pizzas lately!
 
Of course! Next time i'll see to post something, though it will never look as good as ones in that thread! :D
I used to do i in an electrical owen with a rectangualr form, sometimes for the base i use only water, salt, yeast (dunno if it is correct english term... The ingredient to rise the base), soft grain wheat, other times i use milk, oil, grappa (a local spirit, good to rise more the base, whiskey should be good too), hard grain wheat (often half hard half soft).
I have an uncle that ran a pizzeria (pizza shop) for a long time (and he made very good italian pizzas) and he tried the base with a lot of different kind of beers and other drinks (as orange juice).
When i go to a pizza shop, if they're good, i like a lot the combo with pepperoni, cream and porcini mushrooms or blue cheese, mushrroom mix, suasage, pepperoni, cheese mix. Or simply margherita possibly with buffalo mozzarella.
When doing it myself; onion, pepperoni and fresh hot pepper and sometime mushrooms! :D
 
1) Dough:
-~400g wheat (half soft grain, half hard grain)
-beer yeast with 1 glass of water
-a third of glass of milk (to tell the truth i would as much as water but this time 1 glass were too much)
-a teaspoon of sugar
-a tablespoon of evo oil
-2 teaspoon of salt (but full to the brim... Next time i'd put less)
 
3 hours has not been sufficent for a good rise even if kept warm but i had no time, so i flattened the dough and put it in the oven at 100°C for some minutes
In this 3 hours i put the chopped onion with salt, black pepper and evo oil.
 
2) no sauce... Pure puree tomato is good as it is for pizza
 
3) 1 habanero chocolate, chopped (only in round one)
 
4) red onion, buffalo mozzarella, puree tomato, Napoli pepperoni
round one: add haba choco
rectangular: add anchovy, tosella (an italian soft cheese, good to grill)
 
5) electrical oven at maximum temperature (i think it's around 275°C)
 
6)
Before cooking:
 
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After cooking:
 
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In spite of bad rising the dough has been very good! Buffalo mozzarella it's great (imho the best for pizza, i was lucky to have found it on sale cause it's expensive), oil bathed onion with salt and black pepper it's great too!
 
Essegi said:
2) no sauce... Pure pure tomato is good as it is for pizza
My favorite of sauces! Just tomato... there's a reason the margherita is so good. :)

No "spaghetti" sauce on my pizza!

Lookin' good.
 
Thanks: ;)
Oh, i forgot an "e" where quoted (corrected). Usually here, when you go to a pizza shop, sauce for pizza is only tomato and salt, sometimes basil.
If there's interest i could post some photos of my cousin pizza (he ran a pizzeria), next time i go to his pizzeria could take some if he agrees, just have to remember! :D
 
Yup. Agreed. Or you can just add it to the tomato after saucing the pie too, cuts down on cooking it as a sauce, fresher tasting. Like how they add a sprinkle of oregano to a neapolitan marinara. Or basil to a marg.

Okay you're in Italy I see. You KNOW! :)
 
I'd say those pies look pretty dang awesome Essegi.
 
No really, they are just beautiful.
 
I should mention we have our little fun foody contests the first friday of every month and starting this friday its "pizza".
 
We would be so honored for you to post pics and recipe's for us in the Throwdown Forum when it begins.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
Yup. Agreed. Or you can just add it to the tomato after saucing the pie too, cuts down on cooking it as a sauce, fresher tasting. Like how they add a sprinkle of oregano to a neapolitan marinara. Or basil to a marg.

Okay you're in Italy I see. You KNOW! :)
 
Yeah, here we grow up eating pizzas!:D Pizza shops are everywhere. There are lots of different kinds, but nearly all have puree tomato as sauce or none at all (pizza bianca, white pizza) with or without sliced tomato (or little tomatoes, pomodorini...).
Out of interest: it would be interesting to start a bruschetta thread, i like it a lot, one can consider it as a poor's man pizza, and i prefer pizza, but imho you can rub sauces on it even better!:D
 
texas blues said:
I'd say those pies look pretty dang awesome Essegi.
 
No really, they are just beautiful.
 
I should mention we have our little fun foody contests the first friday of every month and starting this friday its "pizza".
 
We would be so honored for you to post pics and recipe's for us in the Throwdown Forum when it begins.
Thanks. i'll check this.;)
 
Oh hell yeah!  Get in the throwdown Essegi!  And please please do post pics of your cousin's pizza shop and his pies.
 
Essegi said:
 
 
Out of interest: it would be interesting to start a bruschetta thread, i like it a lot, one can consider it as a poor's man pizza, and i prefer pizza, but imho you can rub sauces on it even better! :D
 
 
 
 
Do it!!!! I love bruschetta. Don't think I've ever had spicy bruschetta though. I'll have to change that.
 
JayT said:
Oh hell yeah!  Get in the throwdown Essegi!  And please please do post pics of your cousin's pizza shop and his pies.
Unfortunately it's difficult i'll do something in time. ;)
Jeff H said:
 
 
Do it!!!! I love bruschetta. Don't think I've ever had spicy bruschetta though. I'll have to change that.
Thanks, there are many simple ways for a good bruschetta. it's a poor men dish (well, toppings could change that, but its' born poor) but this is convenient because it means, simpliciy, ease of making and fast too. And it can be REALLY good. Of course i consider pizza a nobler food, but you can roast a bread piece, grate a clove of garlic direcly into the slice, spread well evo oil, tomato puree, salt if needed (and for us at mandatory at least pepper powder :D) and if you have good ingredients.... I think even elder greek Gods would trade ambrosia for that! Still maybe better bruschetta ever imho.
And still, i think sauces are really good on bruschetta (as i said only puree tomato for pizza for me).
Of course one can put cheese and many other thing and continue cooking.
There is also "crostino" that is similar but to tell the truth i'm not sure what is the difference with bruschetta (someone says when there is cheese... And other things). Or grilled bread with "lardo di colonnata"... You can't explain. Or only with pepper puree...
Of couse it's important bread type (Pane Pugliese it's excellent for basic bruschetta to say one, or Toscano for lard but it's not mandatory to have a specific bread, for example i like a lot ciabatta)...
Speaking of toppings i'd say anything is good on pizza is good on bruschetta (i've had issues with mozzarella in bruschetta because it casts out a lot of liquid, in pizza in oven it evaporate, cooking is different, i don't use an oven).
Sorry for OT, next time i'll have some of these i'll take some pics and start a thread. ;) I'm no way an expert but i konw i'll eat well when i have some bruschettas! :D
 
It's pizza weekend...
 
Had a taste for a good pie or two.................... thought I'd throw a couple down here, some of my favorites !
 
First off is a "Chicago Deep Dish"....Chicago's known (labeled) for its deep dish and stuffed pizza's
Some of the big hitters are: Pizzeria Uno, and Due, Gino's East, Giordano's, Nancys.....the list goes on.
We also have our share of Naple style brick oven joints, regular and cracker style pizza parlors.
Some of you have made a pie from scratch at home, only to have it turn out extra thin and crisp...that might be the slice I'd want on my plate.
I like them all !
 
This 1st one will be from another well known establishment...."Lou Malnati's".....known for it's flaky buttery crust and its "raw" sauce topping.
I've been fortunate to obtain the exact recipe for the dough from an old friend that retired from the biz.. I've seen folks try to duplicate it but have
only imitated it, usually falling short of the 2 main ingredients and off with the hydration rates.  I've reduced the proportions down to making one 26 oz dough ball.
That said..........
 
 

 
Here's the start to the sauce. I like to bruise some Basil, Rosemary, Oregano, Thyme, Olive Oil (tbl) and Salt (tsp) in the mortar. You could smash a garlic clove if
if needed. But that's not necessary.
 

 
With a fine strainer over a bowl I added the herbs along with 1/2 can of 6/1 ground Tomatoes. The bowl will sit in the fridge along with the dough overnight.
The herbs will infuse the sauce. (discard herbs before using sauce)
 

 
Heres a 14" large deep dish pan. I've displayed the layering of ingredients. First off, the dough ball was placed into  fridge for a 3 day rest. Once removed,
the pan will get a liberal coat of Pomace Oil on the bottom only. The room temperature dough is placed in the center and pushed out towards the sides pinching
the lip up 1.5". A single layer of mild Provolone is placed on the bottom, followed by a "thin disc" of fresh hot Italian Sausage . Then a scattering of whole milk
Mozzarella cheese, topped with a layer of sauce with a sprinkle of Parmi-Reggiano. The pan is placed onto the rack of a pre-heated 425 deg oven for 35/38 min.
 

 
If you've never removed a large deep dish pie from the pan before it might seem challanging.  I can't compare it to flipping an omelette but, more of "pulling the rug
from under". It's fairly easy, place the spatula under the pie, use the grabbers on the rim. In one motion, quickly lift the pan a few inches with the grabbers. While in the down motion keep the pie hoisted while quickly pulling the pan away. Lay the pie to rest outter edge first. If done correctly, there'll be no poking or ripping through with the spatula.
I've removed a few pies in the past.................. :D
 

 
Here's the typical setup in a pizza parlor, Crushed Red Pepper, Parm Cheese, Oregano in the shaker jars along with Olive Oil pour bottle.
I like to have a cold pitcher of beer with my pie !
 

 
and I do like to add the condiments...especially the crushed red. This slice is the fork and knife type, typical of a deep dish or stuffed...
 
 
 
 
 

 
"It's Alive !".........This is an Italian Starter, very-very old. I keep this one in a "coma" in the fridge. This was 1 cups worh that I brought out
5 days ago. I washed and fed it from that time.....its a bubbly, gaseous, yeasty, alcoholic smelling wonder !  
I'll use half of this with some "00" Flour for the next pie..........the other half will be used later in the week for some Ciabatta Bread........meatballs anyone ?
 
See y'all at "High Noon"
 
sicman said:
you do realize there is a pizza throw down going on. that pie would have had a goodchance of winning. looks great!
Thanks,
I know.......thought about it.......just seems too ,fun-knee to enter with this wing-ding vote also happening.
 
I'll just spin my pizza's here today......more later
 
PIC 1 said:
Thanks,
I know.......thought about it.......just seems too ,fun-knee to enter with this wing-ding vote also happening.
 
I'll just spin my pizza's here today......more later
 
Don't pout. Post your pizza in the TD thread and see what happens. Fact is people like your cooking, just let it roll.
 
Here's another pie.........Margherita Pizza......with Prosciutto and Fire Oil
 

 
The Starter plus the "00" has risen, enough for 2 pies. I squeezed and drained about 8 San Marzano Tomatoes. There's also Fresh Motz, Parm-Reggie, Basil and Naga Infused Pepper Oil.
 

 
The dough was icky-sticky...which is good. I dusted the board....counter...my shirt..the floor.... :lol: . I scooped about 9 oz of dough out, flattened out to a disk. The grill has been lit and the pizza stone is preheating on the indoor oven floor.
 

 
The dough was stretched out to a 12" circle. I added the San Marzano Tomatoes, Fresh Mozzarella Cheese, Fire Oil and a sprinkle of grated Parmigiano Reggiano.
 

 
The Green Egg is fired up to 750+...Heres 4 minutes into the bake. I added some torn Prosciutto. Lid closed for anothe 4 minutes.
 

 
Done........usually I like a major char on the crust but the cheese has melted, any longer and the Di Parma would have crisp up. I added some torn Basil and another sprinkle of Reggiano.
 

 
The plating shot with a glass....and now an empty bottle of Chianti...........who has the aspirins ?............................ :banghead: 
 

 
Side view.........bottom crust is nice and thin and the rim has a nice chew to it.
 
Might be a 3rd pie after awhile.........the stuff is ready, but I'm ready to hit the pub and watch some football..........maybe later ?
 
 
 
This pizza is awesome, i like it more than one in #1074 post wich was already good!
This one seems a true Napoli style pizza!
Last pic is excellent, you can see it's truly well cooked!
 
The only thing is that i'd put prosciutto di Parma after cooking, personal thing btw.
 
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