Tybo2021

I wanted to get these photos of some peppers Ive got growing inside posted and figured I'd include them in my 2021 grow log since they are gonna be around for awhile.  These are three of the Scarlett's Chilli X Poblano.  I liked the taste of the F1's and I interested to see what becomes of the F2's.  I got the F1 seeds from PollenNut and posted those photo's in his original topic here:http://thehotpepper.com/topic/73286-f1bc1-free-seed-being-offered/page-8#entry1705015
I started the three of these at the end of October.  Wish I could have started more since these are the F2's but I'm limited on space inside.  (Reserving space for the seed starts of my main grow)
 
Here are a couple of shots of two of them in the Grodan cubes.  Two of them germinated in about 2 weeks.  There is a seed in the middle that hasn't popped yet but after ~4weeks it did sprout.
 

 
I took this pic about 9pm showing how the leaves curl up after being under the lights for 16 hours.  I noticed this last year with my seed starts.  First thing in the morning the leaves are in the normal position and stay that way all day.  I figure that they are done with the light for the day and "raise" their leaves to limit exposure?
 

 
The next pics are after I up potted them.  The late arrival went into a solo cup and the first ones got larger digs for now.
The late arrival

 
And the first sprouts.  I included both pics even though they look about the same.
 

 
And todays pics.  The late arrival is showing one leaf that looks "different".  It looks like it is variegated.  Or maybe something wrong.  Hard to tell for sure right now but maybe in another week or two it will be more evident.
 

 
The first sprouts.  Growing nicely.
 

 
That's it for now.  I'm still deciding on what to grow this coming season.  I have a list going that is ever changing.  Some of my picks are definates and others get added and taken away.  There's still time to decide though.  I've been pretty busy trying to update my other hobby which is beekeeping.  This year I am going to start using smaller hive boxes so Ive been busy building new ones!  It's supposed to be cheaper than buying them pre made but WOW!  Lumber prices have almost quadrupled this year.  The price we pay for hobbies!
 
Take care

 

[Tybo]

I was surprised today with these Rhomboidum sprouts. Three started and three up.   I was also surprised by how tiny they are.  I've never grown them before.

 
 
I also have Lanceolatum seeds planted but no signs of them yet.  
 

 

[CaneDog]

Nice!  Those are little guys.  They look healthy though.

 

[Kramer]

Yup, quick and easy. Soak and go. Once germinated,
I found General Hydroponic's Rapid Start gave the
seedlings a great start.

 
Just wanted to echo this as I've been experimenting with GH's Rapid Start and BioRoot lately.  Both have turned out to be game changing products.  I think the Rapid Start is the more aggressive one of the two, so I'm reserving it to reduce transplant shock and using mild bioroot + kelp for the more regular feedings.  I don't see how you could go wrong with either one, though.  My plants love em.
 
Nice seedlings.  Small for now, but looking perfectly healthy.

 

[Tybo]

Been awhile since I last updated so I took a couple hours this morning to pot up some plants and get a few pics.  Things were getting cramped for some of them in the solo cups.  I tried a bag of this potting mix last year and had decent results so it is my main mix this year.  I get it locally and the price is pretty good

 
Here's the ingredients

 
First up is the goat "herd".  They could have stayed in the solo cups longer but I wanted to get them moved before the roots started circling the cups so bad.  Not sure it'll make any difference but Im sure it won't hurt.  I wasn't having much luck with the seeds from Super Hot Chilis .com so I started more from White Hot Peppers and had better luck.

 
This G2 Papa Dreadie is the only one of these that I have left.  The other one didnt make it. 

 
So far I've kept three Aji Amarillos.  I've come so close to culling one or two of them due to having so many plants this year!  

 
I had some trouble with the Aji Panca this year.  I originally had two seedlings that just fell over shortly after sprouting.  Nothing I did could save them so I replanted a couple more.  Only one of those germinated and it did ok until this morning.  It was trying to fall over.  I went ahead and got it out of the solo cup and gave it a bamboo skewer for some support.  Hopefully it will strengthen up.  These are in the same mix as all the other plants so Im not sure why they are so flimsy.

 
I have this Blue Mystery plant that is growing like crazy.  The stalk on this one is thick and strong.  It's in the same mix/nutes/lights as the Aji Panca so those are not causing any weakness.

 
Here is a superhot that I planted "just because".  Just because I had the seeds I guess.  I've heard these get pretty hot so guess I'll find out.  I do have a Carolina Reaper started again this year.  I put it in a quart jar kratky grow.  The BOC that I grew Kratky style last year did very well so maybe the reaper will.

 
Some of you probably remember that I killed my Galapagoense last fall by cutting it back in preparation for over wintering so I started another from left over seeds that I got from CD last year.  It's growing nicely and getting some lower growth.  I'll probably keep this one in a smaller container than last season.  

 
These Rocoto Montufar plants are coming along.  Looking forward to tasting these!

 
CD also provided me with these Rhomboidium seeds and some Lanceolatum seeds as well.  I've given up on the Lanceolatum though.  They were started February 9th.

 
I've had these Sri Lanka Red seeds for two or three years now and put off growing any until now.  Seems like I remember trying these pods and thought they were pretty good so I'll give them a try this year.  There are two seedlings here.  I may just leave both of them.

 
Last for now is this "unknown" seedling.  I don't know what happened to the tag and cannot remember what it is so growing it out is now mandatory.  

 
I'll try to do another update later.  
 
 
 
 

 

[PaulG]

Your plants look great, Ty!
 
The wild varieties are doing especially well.
Your Blue Mystery, and galapagoense
are leaving mine in the dust. Just teeny 
sprouts so far     and no show on the
rhombodium.  My lanceolatum haven't
sprouted, either.

 

[HeatMiser]

Looking good Tybo! I like the goat "herd", what are your plans for all those pods?
 
Don't know why you're having issues with the seeds from superhotchiles.com. I ordered a few packs from them last year and had good success overall. I'd definitely get some more from them.
 
Anyway, will be interesting to see what your "Unknown" plant is... I must say it is kind of fun growing these unlabeled seeds.

 

[CaneDog]

That Blue Mystery is a beast and the Galapagoense is really bushing out already.  Really green and happy/healthy leaves all around.  Looking forward to seeing this bigger grow go well for you.  You certainly won't be lacking for pods!

 

[Tybo]

Your plants look great, Ty!
 
The wild varieties are doing especially well.
Your Blue Mystery, and galapagoense
are leaving mine in the dust. Just teeny 
sprouts so far     and no show on the
rhombodium.  My lanceolatum haven't
sprouted, either.

Thanks Paul.  Yeah, the Blue Mystery and Gala are really growing well.  Guess I got lucky with seed stock because I'm not doing anything special.  I looked at the dates on my Rhombodium and it was up in 10 days.  Hopefully yours will sprout soon.  The lanceolatum just seems to be a no-go for me.  Same with tepin cappuccino and the Texas tepin I started.
 

Looking good Tybo! I like the goat "herd", what are your plans for all those pods?
Sauce!  I've also got orange habaneros started for the same reason.  
 
Don't know why you're having issues with the seeds from superhotchiles.com. I ordered a few packs from them last year and had good success overall. I'd definitely get some more from them.
I've gotten other seeds from them and didnt have any issues.  Just poor germination with these.  Luckily the seeds I got from WHP germinated really well.  I'd say if you are counting on having pods it is a good idea to get seeds from at least a couple of vendors.  
 
 
Anyway, will be interesting to see what your "Unknown" plant is... I must say it is kind of fun growing these unlabeled seeds.
It will be interesting but I hate the fact that I misplaced the tag.

 
 

That Blue Mystery is a beast and the Galapagoense is really bushing out already.  Really green and happy/healthy leaves all around.  Looking forward to seeing this bigger grow go well for you.  You certainly won't be lacking for pods!
​Thanks CD.  I hope you're right about the pods.  I have had plants in the past that only produced a few pods and others that just kept on and on producing.  Like that BOC last year. (And I didnt even like those pods!)  Hopefully by growing several I'll be sure to get enough.     

 

[PaulG]

Hey, Ty, I have some Cappuccino Chiltepin
seeds harvested last season, originally from
Semillas la Palma. Be happy to send you some,
They were late and slow to ripen, but a couple
of pods will provide quite a few seeds to try.
Also some Texas Tepin I grew last season, seeds
originally from Crafty Fox via 2019 seed train.

 

[Tybo]

Hey, Ty, I have some Cappuccino Chiltepin
seeds harvested last season, originally from
Semillas la Palma. Be happy to send you some,
They were late and slow to ripen, but a couple
of pods will provide quite a few seeds to try.
Also some Texas Tepin I grew last season, seeds
originally from Crafty Fox via 2019 seed train.

 
 
Thanks Paul.  Maybe next season since it's getting late this year.  I really appreciate the offer though!

 

[Tybo]

I have some yellow spotting going on that I cant find an answer to.  These spots are showing up on several different varieties.  I've searched the webs for similar spots and cant find anything.  Bacterial leaf spot keeps coming up but I don't have the brown usually associated with that.  At least not yet.  Here is a pic of a yellow 7 pot.  I have these also now on Manzano, habanero and bahamian goats!  I'll add that the spots are mainly on the lower leaves if that helps.  The pics are from Imgur so you can click on them for a really close view if desired.

 
 
I considered that the soil ph is off and maybe its a nutrient lock out issue.  I tried testing run off by pouring distilled water through this plant until I could collect enough water to test.  I got some strange results though.  I got a ph reading of 5.2!  Pretty low so I checked the ph of the distilled water and came up with 5.3.  Not what I expected from distilled water.  I thought it should be closer to 7 so I checked my meter calibration and it checked dead on with 4.0 solution.  I checked my tap water which is from a well and it read 5.4 which is probably pretty close.  It tends to vary from time to time.  So basically, I don't know any more than I did to start with.  Anyone have any idea what these yellow spots are and what can be done about them?
 

 

[Tybo]

The wife just came in the door from grocery shopping and brought me this brand new gallon of distilled water.  
 

 

[CaneDog]

Hey Tybo. Sorry to see the spots.  The leaves look so green and healthy, otherwise. I'd probably start by dealing with the pH issue.  Distilled water pH drops when it's exposed to atmosphere, so a pH in the 5's isn't surprising, though I would hope not to see it so low in a new bottle.  Maybe some baking soda in their water would help to get them up into a more favorable pH range for balanced nutrient absorption? 
 
I've definitely seen that type of chlorotic spotting before, but I'm not remembering right now how it turned out.  The things that come to mind are nutrient deficiency, too much light, and fungal spotting.  It seems too yellow for a lighting issue.  Deficiencies of mobile nutrients would be expected to affect the lower, older leaves first - as might a fungal issue.  I'd probably work on the pH while keeping an eye out for things that might further suggested a pathogen issue like an active border to the spots, the spots growing together, and necrosis in the centers.
 
Wish I could provide something more helpful.  Hopefully someone will chime in who can.
 
Good luck.  Hope it's an easy fix!

 

[PaulG]

The spots also lack the sunken, wet look
the leaf spots get before discoloration
and necrosis set in.
 
Good luck with these, Ty. I hate this kind
of stuff.

 

[DontPanic]

Whenever I get yellow spots or streaks, I've always attributed it to a nutrient deficiency.  Sometimes it's a genuine lack of nutrients, and a feeding will green them right up.  Other times I have some problem with nutrient uptake.
 
It would make sense to approach it as a problem with the pH in the soil.  But, I admit it's tricky to be chasing the pH in the soil.  Even when you adjust the pH of your water, you're never exactly sure about the pH in the soil once it's gotten out of whack.
 
On the plus side, the problem looks pretty mild right now.

 

[Tybo]

Not wanting to take a wait and see approach I did some surfing around and have decided to treat this as a magnesium deficiency.  It seems that ph below 5.5 can cause magnesium uptake issues.  There are other nutrients affected by low ph but I looked those up and they didnt match my symptoms. .  Here is a chart showing the effect of ph on the nutes.

 I boxed in the ph range I came up with and then looked at each of the nutes that I arrowed.  Magnesium is the only one that looks suspect.  I didnt find any epsom salt around here but did have a bottle of Botanicare Cal Mag Plus so I gave everything a foliar spray.  Its a shot in the dark but I don't have a way of accurately testing the potting mix right now so fingers crossed.
 
Thanks for the suggestions!
 
Anyone have suggestions for testing soil ph?  Other that the $100+ meter from blue lab?

 

[Tybo]

Wanted to give a little update.  The problem with the yellow spots has spread to other plants.  About 20 of them so I moved them outside, away from the healthy plants.  Temps have been 60's and 70's day time and 40's/50's nighttime.  They are on the porch which is covered so frost shouldn't be a problem.  I don't know what the problem is.  They are still alive so it must not be something lethal.  If they do live it's up in the air how they will perform.  Time will tell.
 
Another problem that got out of hand really fast is fungus gnats!  I have them every year but this year was unreal!  That new potting mix was loaded evidently.  I opened a new bag and they were waiting to be released.  I've never seen so many inside a bag.  Anyway, I hung up some yellow sticky tape.(fly traps) and caught hundreds of them but they just reproduced faster than I was trapping them.  After some research, I bought diatomaceous earth and put a couple heaping tablespoons in each pot and mixed it into the top inch of soil.  So far I'm seeing the number of gnats dwindling really fast!  And on the plus side I'm seeing a happier wife.  
 
Here's an example of what I did.

 
Next year I'll have to come up with a way to rid the potting mix of gnats and their eggs.  What do you all do?  I cant believe I'm the only one with this issue.

 

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