FloridaSun said:
Steve, here's a question that will help me pick the freezer to use; The recipe calls for 3 gallons. Would I use a 3 gallon carboy filled right to the top or would it be better and safer to use a 5 gallon and have the remaining two gallons of space be there for bubbling or expansion or whatever? I have no idea of what to expect, so I don't know if a 3 gallon batch should be made in a larger container.
I'll need two carboys to allow for the 21 day brewing cycle. So I need know how much height and width I'll need for my containers in the freezer I'll buy. Perhaps it would be a good idea to buy a freezer that 3 of the carboys would fit in, just in case. Wheather it's height is good for a 3 gallon or larger is the question.
Is there a size of freezer that works really well? Maybe a certain cu ft?
Just thought I'd step in here and offer a bit of advice, at risk of derailing the thread entirely.
I seriously recommend
against using carboys or narrow-mouth vessels of any kind for the starter (
moto or
shubo) and primary fermentation (
moromi) stages of saké brewing. Think about it for a moment: making saké calls for adding just shy of
ten pounds of cooked rice over a period of a few days, followed by frequent stirring. Shoving pound after pound of
hot cooked rice down the neck of an expensive glass carboy (or even more expensive Better Bottle™) is not my idea of fun!
The best vessel for the job is a cheap plastic 7 gallon bucket with tight-fitting lid that has been drilled for an airlock. I suppose you could use your pickle crock if you really want to, but I wouldn't be able to predict the results because I don't actually own a pickle crock and therefore haven't ever used it to make saké with. I do make the occasional batch of sauerkraut in my crockpot, though...but I digress.
Now, for the secondary fermentation following pressing, a three gallon carboy would work fine, as you'll end up with anywhere from 2.5 to 3.0 gallons of cloudy
nigorizake. They're expensive, however, so I usually just use three one-gallon jugs instead because they're cheaper and easy to handle.
FloridaSun said:
Is there a particular racking cane that is preferred for 5 gallon carboys? I found quite a few, but there are some major differences. Also, what size of tubing would be most suitable for sake? Half inch or larger?
Thanks again!
Most racking canes take 3/8" vinyl or silicone tubing, available at your local hardware store. Beware, however: you very likely won't be able to siphon the saké out of the primary fermenter because it will be thick with partially degraded rice. Recently I've found that carefully ladling the
moromi out with a sanitized stainless steel pot works best - I apologize that my guide currently doesn't reflect this technique, I just haven't had a chance to update it recently.
If you have any other questions or just want some saké making advice, you can always contact me through my
web site. I always answer my e-mail promptly and I don't bite, I promise!
Oh, and just to add something that's actually on-topic for this thread: I'm an all-grain beer brewer in the summer months and a saké brewer during the winter.