I don't wish to drive that.
Quality is still an issue with American cars IMO. I agree with Proud Marine Dad that American cars are better than ever but we are still just playing catch up to the Germans and Japanese. I work at a bodyshop and handle parts for all makes and models. Structurally German cars are superior, mechanically the Japanese lead the way and America seems to only be focused on styling gas guzzlers. What really grinds my gears is seeing cars in other countries that get way better gas mileage and we can't have them because they won't pass "safety standards and emissions" which I think is a bunch of BS. Look out for that new F150 thats gonna have an aluminium chassis that will give us a couple miles better mpg but you gotta put premium gas and its gonna cost twice as much. Seriously! We need more diesel options!Pfeffer said:I'm not talking about quality..
I'm more talking about wanting to give your left nut for something..
Nothing wrong with muscle cars as long as you get free fuel, free tyres, don't need to make curves or hit something..grantmichaels said:I don't wish to drive that.
Pfeffer said:Nothing wrong with muscle cars as long as you get free fuel, free tyres, don't need to make curves or hit something..
And they are not that worse for the enviroment than a prius (considering the lack of plastics, lithium etc)
Yeah, when I was a kid I used to do yard work for extra money. I had one customer who payed good but would stand behind me all day long just talking away about things I didn't give a rats ass about. I needed money so kept nodding and injecting a "yup" now and again to keep him happy. He was Canadian and almost every sentence began with "In my country....." or "You Americans don't...." or some other crappy line to make himself feel superior over a 12 year old kid. Definite Gear Grinder there.muskymojo said:So do people from other countries that think they know what's best for this country, and preach on and on about it.
Hawaiianero said:Yeah, when I was a kid I used to do yard work for extra money. I had one customer who payed good but would stand behind me all day long just talking away about things I didn't give a rats ass about. I needed money so kept nodding and injecting a "yup" now and again to keep him happy. He was Canadian and almost every sentence began with "In my country....." or "You Americans don't...." or some other crappy line to make himself feel superior over a 12 year old kid. Definite Gear Grinder there.
I disagree. Our Fusion gets 34 mpg.Grass Snake said:Quality is still an issue with American cars IMO. I agree with Proud Marine Dad that American cars are better than ever but we are still just playing catch up to the Germans and Japanese. I work at a bodyshop and handle parts for all makes and models. Structurally German cars are superior, mechanically the Japanese lead the way and America seems to only be focused on styling gas guzzlers. What really grinds my gears is seeing cars in other countries that get way better gas mileage and we can't have them because they won't pass "safety standards and emissions" which I think is a bunch of BS. Look out for that new F150 thats gonna have an aluminium chassis that will give us a couple miles better mpg but you gotta put premium gas and its gonna cost twice as much. Seriously! We need more diesel options!
Ours is a 2013 Titanium. The Focus is a budget car so I wouldn't really compare it as its more in the class with the less expensive imports like Hyundai and so forth.Grass Snake said:I drive a 2010 ford focus and it gets 32mpg supposedly, thats good and all but overseas cars been getting that kind of mpg for decades . At 62k miles my focus feels like it has 150k compared to my 2008 Tacoma that has 80k and drives like its new. There is an obvious quality difference. My buddy who has a 2010 Ford Fusion is having all sorts of problems with his car right now with 120k, he actually regrets buying the car. I think Fords get better every year and I hope you don't have any problems with yours PMD but like I stated in the post above we are not ahead of the game.
I think the Ford Fusion Titanium is the nicest car in its class.grantmichaels said:I think PMD is right ... I'll be looking hard at the Ford line up for the very first time in my life, for the next vehicle purchase.
I'll probably get an Edge of whatever the cross-over is called ...
People telling me where to post really grinds my gears!Scoville DeVille said:You guys should take your car-nveraation over to the 'Post your Ride' thread.
Thread-Jacking really grinds my gears!