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PaulG 2012

I'm chomping at the bit to get started with some new chilli varieties this coming Spring. So far I've just scratched the surface with Poblanos, Jalapenos and Serranos, all of which I really like. I've been egged on by a new Second Generation Mejicano neighbor as we've talked about hot chillis over the back fence! He helped me make some Pico de Gallo with my Serranos and Early Girl tomatoes and has some great recipes from his mother and grandmother. Hopefully I'll be able to share some of them on this forum in the future. I need to grow more Cilantro. Oh yeah!

I've ordered seed from several sources which received at least a few good comments on this forum (6/12 - items crossed out did not germ, or weren't planted this year):

US Hot Stuff:
Bolivian Rainbow
Yellow Peter
Nosegay
Trinidad Scorpion (from Spankycolts)
Devil Tongue

The Hippy Seed Company: Seed Packet Mixes
NuMex Twilight (from Siliman)
Yellow Jellybeans
Tom Thumbs
Wild Texas Tepin

Refining Fire: Seed Packet Mix
Scotch Bonnet
Chocolate Habanero
Jamaican Red Mushroom

New Mexico State University:
Chiltepin
Omnicolor
Red Carribean Habanero
Orange Habanero

Pepper Gal:
Aji Yellow (request from a Peruvian friend of ours!)
Thai Hot

Peppermania:
Inca Lost
Fatali
White Habanero (from Spanky)
Red Savina (cross with Fatali, from Spanky)
Bishop's Crown
Inca Red Drop
Orange Rocoto
Congo Trinidad

I doubt I will be able to try all of these out this year, but I have saved my seeds in small glass jars with tight-fitting lids for storage over the next year. I have been saving seed from other garden produce and have had good luck with germinating them after two or even three years. The jars are stored in boxes in the garage for a cool dark location for them. I have ordered several compact varieties with an eye toward trying to winter over some of my plants this year. Since I didn't even know peppers were perennial, I can say I've already learned something from this forum!


I purchased a small greenhouse from One Stop Gardens (via Harbor Freight) for $300 four years ago. This is one of the greenhouse kits I've noticed in the greenhouse advertsing bar at the bottom of some of the pages on this forum. This picture is from Spring/ Summer 2011. You can see my tomato and pepper starts on the sheves. I winter over some bonsai trees and jade plants as well as geraniums, begonias and Gerbera Daisies. In the winter, I use a small space heater (visible on ground in the picture) to keep the temp at 40F during the few cold weeks we experience here. So far it has worked pretty well. If overwintering pepper plants becomes a reality I'll be making more room in the greenhouse! I've started a thread in the Grow Tech forum to discuss issues which crop up with these units.

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January 14, 2012:

Composting:

Okay, I need to do something outside. I know, I'll dig out a compost bin. We've had a little dry cool weather, so the worms have burrowed down, and the compost is crumbly, if a tad wet.

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The first step - dig out the bin and sift the material. I use a homemade frame with a layer of 1/4 inch plastic hardware cloth backed with a layer of one inch mesh poultry netting. The fine stuff goes into the wheelbarrow, the coarse stuff into an adjacent compost bin we're still building up.

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The bin on the left is covered to keep the leafy material dry and fluffy. The dry leaves are an important layer in the compost 'cake'. The bin on the right is the one I'm digging out. Nice, dark and crumbly with lots of worms! The sifter is on the wheelbarrow, and some of the coarse stuff is already on the active compost bin in the middle. The bin in the back is resting for several of months. It has a black plastic hardware cloth cover to keep out squirrels and racoons.

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The bin is all dug out. I left about two inches of broken up compost on the bottom of the hole to create a space for the worms to move into. You can see the bin in the middle has a layer of coarse stuff spread out on the top.

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The last step is to put a nice deep layer of dry leaves on the bin we just dug out. Now that bin will rest for a at least several months or more while the earthworms move into the compost/earth interface and do their work. That will make a great base for the next cycle of composting in this bin. I put a thin layer of leaves on the middle bin, too. Now there's a nice layer cake of dirt/compost, leaves. kitchen scraps. All small yard clippings except grass go into the compost bins, even tomato vines and pepper branches and twigs. I don't even chop stuff up too much. I try to have at least 10 or 12 layers of stuff built up before I cover the bin with a layer of dirt/compost and let the worms work for several months. I'm getting about 12-18 cubic feet of compost from these bins a year. My goal is to become 'soil self-sufficient' at some point, perhaps only having to procure horticultural pumice or vermiculite and some peat moss every so often.

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The good stuff. It will go into a plastic, vented storage bin for at lest eight weeks to cure a bit. Then I mix it with a little peat moss and some vermiculite or pumice for aeration. In my large containers, I add 2 or 3 inches of compost worked into the top of the container only every year. I try not to mix up the soil layers in the big containers very much, letting the nutrients percolate down through the soil as in a natural setting. As the blog continues this summer, I'll include photos of the irrigation system and containers I use to grow my tomatoes and peppers, and a few other things.
 
Looking good man! I figured that they would recover quick if the roots were good. Looks like they are! Really watching the clones, hopefully they start putting out some new growth too soon!
I'm really 'rooting' :D for the cuttings to make it too, Shane! I think in several days we'll
see results one way or another. I examine them with a 7x 'loupe', so if even one cell
pops out, I'll see it!

PaulG's Attack of the Clones! Very cool!
Egads, it's like a 'B' movie :scared: !
Glad you like it, Lanman!
 
You're at the top of the list, mj :lol: !
So far the clones/cuttings are doing pretty well, nothing more than some
expected wilting, and not much of that. I'll bet you could do it with the
seedlings you would thin out; what's to lose if you have two seedlings in
a cell?
Don't forget - carefully separating the root balls is also an option.
I'm interested in the growth rate of the buds on the cut off stalks, too.
Something to think about, there, for sure. It's all just an experiment :D


Will try to post pics daily...

Yeah the thinned seedlings (ie cut off at the soil line to thin them out when planting out) take very easily as cuttings/clones with next to no wilting or leaf shedding if done quickly from the cut to the medium without letting them dry out at all, easiest way to take a cutting (saves wrecking that root ball of the one you leave thats for certain) although you have no idea of the genetics or have that much of an idea on overall plant vigour when you do this as they are still only very young plants.

Looking good so far Paul, you may not lose any of the bigger leaves if you keep the conditions right, this year just for a muck about I took 9-10 cuttings (using the simple water method)and had very little leaf drop at all. In fact I kept them in water (only added a little bit of nutrients 2-3 times) and they flowered and set fruit even. (Jalapeno and Bishops crown set fruit each) I had to throw them though do to lack of room and time.
 
Have been misting them several times a day; hopefully that will
keep them nice and plump! How old were your jalapeno and
bishop's crown plants when you took their cuttings?
 
Have been misting them several times a day; hopefully that will
keep them nice and plump! How old were your jalapeno and
bishop's crown plants when you took their cuttings?

I did it when I was thinning them out (as described above) so can't remember exactly but they were 5-6 weeks old I think
 
Really interested to see how your cuttings go. May have a crack at it myself - so will be referring back here lots.

Cheers.
 
Good luck if you decide to give it a go, Simon!
Post some pics if ya do!
 
Here are pix of the Yellow Aji clones and stem:

First node, cut yesterday:
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Second node, cloned yesterday:
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Tip, cloned days ago:
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Here are today's pix of the cut-off stems from the first cloning. This one is the
cayenne, day 5:
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This one is the serrano, day 5:
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So far, I'd say better to cut off at the first node for a shorter stem;
the bottom nodes don't grow much when there are growing
tips at the node above, anyway. There is growth, but much slower.
 
Epsom salt spray test Omnicolor, test plant in white pot:
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Epsom salt spray test Inca Red Drop, test plant in purple pot:
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I sprayed the test plants daily with a very dilute epsom salts spray (1/3 oz. per gallon water);
you can draw your own conclusions, but it's time to thin so tried transplanting with a minimal
root ball. I worked my scissors down into the soil and snipped the roots for the seedling I was
transplanting, being careful not to damage the remaining plant's roots:
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Then a dusting of Rootone:
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And into the dirt, just like before. I transplanted three Inca Red Drops,
two Omnicolors and one Chiltepin (need to add those pix)

later: Okay - here they are after an hour or two; looking a little
shock-y and droopy:
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Back row: Inca Red Drop, Inca red Drop, empty
Middle row: empty, OmniColor, Inca Red Drop
Front row: OmniColor, Chiltepin
 
Hey man...what made you decide on Rocoto's? I found some Manzano's in a store down here and those things pack a pretty good sucker punch!

Have you done any grafting? I am thinking of trying to graft one or two of my leftover supers onto one of my overwinter Jals...I know it can be done, but I haven't grafted anything since I was about 12 or 13 with my grandfather's roses...
 
Looking good Paul. Love your Love your techniques and thanks for sharing!

Jamie
Thanks, Romy - it's really great to have a place to bounce ideas around. Thanks
for looking in on the 'clone wars' ;)

Hey man...what made you decide on Rocoto's? I found some Manzano's in a store down here and those things pack a pretty good sucker punch!

Have you done any grafting? I am thinking of trying to graft one or two of my leftover supers onto one of my overwinter Jals...I know it can be done, but I haven't grafted anything since I was about 12 or 13 with my grandfather's roses...
The rocotos were part of Beth from Peppermania's business card pack. When I asked her about them she said they were orange rocoto and a challenge to grow. I'm looking forward to trying them if I actually get some pods! I'm not really a veteran chilehead - I just have always liked spicy foods. So I'm kinda steering away from the super hots mostly! This sounded interesting and it was a gift, so... thanks, Beth!

Now that I know that peppers are perennial, I think that grafting would be worth trying. A nice sturdy root stock, and maybe even more than one kind of graft on a plant would be really cool. I think you should go for it - there has to be some great directions on line! Especially in your climate - it would really be worthwhile. Do it now! Post pictures!
:cheers:
 
The climate here is ALMOST optimal. If I lived closer to the water it would be perfect. We get pretty regular frosts where I am in the foothills. Had an icy windshield this morning as a matter of fact. I planted the Manzanos because they are supposed to be fairly frost hardy, and grow in a climate almost identical to mine. Even in the dead of summer the nights can be in the low to mid 50's, but up into the triple digits in the afternoon.

That is what I had in mind...use a fairly hardy root stock and then maybe all the bhut colors on one plant...or all the 7 pods. I might actually start some seedlings just as graft stock??? I am going to start slow though and try a cutting from my anaheim, mucho nacho, cayenne and bell onto one of my overwinter Jalapenos...I am going to buy some grafting gel sleeves tomorrow (if the nursery has any) and give it a shot this weekend...
 
That is what I had in mind...use a fairly hardy root stock and then maybe all the bhut colors on one plant...or all the 7 pods. I might actually start some seedlings just as graft stock??? I am going to start slow though and try a cutting from my anaheim, mucho nacho, cayenne and bell onto one of my overwinter Jalapenos...I am going to buy some grafting gel sleeves tomorrow (if the nursery has any) and give it a shot this weekend...
All right! Sounds like a plan! I can hardly wait to see how it goes.
This will be fun to watch! Good luck with your experiment!
 
Sprayed all my plants with the dilute epsom salts solution. In my test, it brought the
scrawny, yellow chiltepin back in one day. The others, hard to say. It obviously
didn't harm the test plants, and they may have had slightly shinier leaves than
the control plants, for whatever reason. These are not large differences. Will spray
the rest of the plants every few days to see how they do. Looking back, I should
have been spraying my control plants with plain water to make sure it wasn't
just the spraying itself that helped the test plants.
 
Hey, if you're giving up on your seeds, don't. I put my germination trays with a few
cells containing ungerminated seeds on top of my light set-up a while back just to
get it out of the way.
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When I looked in the tray last night, there was a Chiltepin hook
showing - after 28 days! It's spreading its cotyledons today. Go figure!
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Here are the growth node pics for today.
This is the Serano; notice not much growth at
the first node:
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The cayenne:
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The cut-off yellow aji stem:
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Here's the cloned aji segment:
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Sweet, following now but i see i got a few pages to read, let me know how the cloning goes as I struck out with trying to clone some bhut's last year
 
Nice Paul! Lookin' good man! I hope those clones take off for you...
Thanks, Shane! It will be a mixed blessing if they do, because I haven't got
enough room to grow out the ones I have, now :confused:

Sweet, following now but i see i got a few pages to read, let me know how the cloning goes as I struck out with trying to clone some bhut's last year
You're a glutton for punishment if you wade through all that ;) but thanks
for your interest; the more the merrier! I'll try to update the cloning pix
every day; the ability of plants to 'create' from raw materials at a rapid pace
is stunning!
Don't give up on your experiments with bhut cloning!
Keep trying with energetic new growth and let us know what
happens.
 
This is the first set of clones, cut from plants 6 days ago. Not much change,
but that's good since they are cuttings. I expect slow visible veg growth
until roots have a chance to develop a little:
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These are the tray A clones from 5 days ago. There is noticeable growth
of leaves on several clones. So far so good:
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Tray B clones; not so much differences here. Holding their own:
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The baccatums and the chiltepin (front center) that were transplanted/cloned
yesterday; looking a lot perkier:
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