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Coach's 2015 Overwhelming Grow

Final Grow List- Updated 3/25/15- 152 Varieties, Around 280 plants:
7 Pot Brain Strain, Red

7 Pot Brain Strain, Yellow

7 Pot Bubblegum, Red

7 Pot Burgundy

7 Pot Caramel

7 Pot Chaguanas

7 Pot Jonah x PDN, F3

7 Pot Jonah, Red

7 Pot Primo, Orange

7 Pot Primo, Red

7 Pot Primo, Yellow

7 Pot White

7 Pot Yellow

7 Pot Yellow x Bhut Jolokia India Carbon

Aji Amarillo

Aji Bolivian Long

Aji Brazilian Starfish

Aji Colorado

Ají Dulce, Orange

Ají Fantasy

Aji Jobito

Aji Lemon Drop

Aji Melocoton

Ají Omnicolor

Aji Panca

Aji Pineapple

Aji Queen Laurie

Aleppo

Ancient Sweet

Bad Brains

Bahamian Goat

Banana, Sweet Monster Heirloom

Bell, Lilac

Bell, Yellow

Bhut Jolokia, India Carbon

Bhut Jolokia, Peach

Bhut Jolokia, Purple

Bhut Jolokia, Red

Bhut Jolokia, White

Bhut Jolokia, Yellow

Bhut Orange Copenhagen

Bih Jolokia, Caramel

Bishop's Crown

Black Stinger

Bonda ma Jacques


Bonda ma Jacques x Yellow 7 Pot

Carolina Reaper

Cayenne, Purple

Cayenne, Ring of Fire

CGN 21500

CGN 21566

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Long

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Cone

Chiltepin x Reaper

Cinnamon Bell

Condor's Beak

Congo, Chocolate

Congo, Peach

Cumari do Para

Datil

Devil's Tongue, White

Dulcetta, Orange

Ethiopian Berbere

Fatalii x TSMB, Yellow

Fatalii, Black

Fatalii, Chocolate

Fatalii, Peach

Fatalii, Peach cross

Fatalii, Red

Fatalii, White

Fatalii, Yellow

Fish

Goat's Weed

Golden Treasure

Goronong

Grif 9304- Colombian Lightning

Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow

Habanero, Carolina Yellow

Habanero, Chocolate

Habanero, Dominican Huge Orange

Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel

Habanero, Large Red Belize Market

Habanero, Mustard Lightning

Habanero, Orange

Habanero, Paper Lantern

Habanero, Peach

Habanero, Red Savina

Habanero, St. Bart's

Hair

Hungarian Yellow Wax (mild)

Jalapeno, Biker Billy

Jalapeno, Early

Jalapeno, Long

Jalapeno, Purple

Jalapeno, Yellow x 7 Pot Bubblegum

Jamaican Mushroom, Yellow

Japones

Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion

Jay's Red Ghost Scorpion

Jwala

Manzano, Caballo Amarillo 

Naga Morich

Naga, Black

Nagabrain, Chocolate

Peach Wasp

Pepperoncini, Greek

Pepperoncini, Italian

Peruvian Serlano

PI 199506- Aji Guyana

PI 281424- PR Mushroom

Pimenta Leopard

Prik Chi Faa

Purple Flash

Rainforest

Red Hot Cherry

Red Savina x Fatalii Red

Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow

Red Savina x Fatalii, Chocolate

Rocoto, Orange

Rocoto, Red

Rooster Spur

SB7J (mushroom pheno)

Scotch Bonnet x Naga Morich

Scotch Bonnet, Burkina Yellow

Scotch Bonnet, Cappuccino

Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate

Scotch Bonnet, MoA red

Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow

Serrano

Shishito

Shumenski Rotund

Star of Turkey

Stuffed Red Giant

Sukari

Sulu Adana

Superhot Cross, Yellow

Tabasco

Tepin x Lemon Drop

Thai, Large Orange

Trinidad Beans

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Butch T

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Sweet

Trinidad Scorpion, Chocolate

Unidentified Brain Strain Cross, Red

Wiri Wiri

Xalapa

Yalova Charleston

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I've got a 3 shelf, 70"x48"x24" unit as my main indoor system. Being in North Carolina, I can put plants into the ground in mid-April. I've got other shelves to use when needed.
 
INTRO
I coach high school Cross Country & Track.
I teach AP Psychology. People say psychology majors are the people who need help the most. I was a History major, but people who spend a lot of time thinking about psychology may self-diagnose at times. Maybe. No one's ever told me I'm OCD. I'm super messy, but I do have a major "all or nothing" theme in my life. I run 100 mile races. I haven't washed my car or had it washed since 1991. I only wear 3 colors of shirts- black, navy & green (& only green because it's a school color). Maybe I have a problem. :) Why would peppers be any different?
 
I've always had gardens of some size- even if just 6-8 tomato plants & a couple of squash. In 2014, I expanded my garden exponentially. Still have a lot of fall/winter crops. I've never grown peppers or tomatoes from seed & only grew jalapenos, habaneros, bells, cayenne & tabasco. In mid-October, I only had 5 varieties of pepper seeds. Two months, later, I have 220, thanks to stumbling across this site & benefiting from the generosity of the folks on this site. Expanded my seed stockpile through giveaways, trades, harvesting from pods, and buying just a few. Incredibly generosity here. I've paid forward some of that, though my stock is limited to 5-10 seeds for most varieties minus what I have or will grow this season.
 
I've had a ton of questions & I've made a lot of mistakes so far. Hopefully this will evolve into more of voice of experience in a few months, but now, I suppose the glog is more a consolidation of advice seeking.
 
HISTORY TO DATE
The plan is to plant a total of six 1020 flats with 48 cells in each & to spread it out roughtly a month apart- two Nov. 1, two Dec. 1 & two Jan. 1.
 
I started germinating some seeds in bags October 26 but followed up 10 days later with seeds in soil. I didn't notice a difference in germination rates or speed between the two methods so I won't use bags in the future. I was a little impatient with germination, but after planting 2 seeds in each of 96 cells, I ended up with 88 seeds that popped. Not quite 50%, but it's a learning process. Almost all of the last set of seeds I planted sprouted. Problems were:
* Planted too deep
* Compacted soil too much
* Not ideal mix of soil. Used a mix of 3 store bought mixes with added Vermiculite. The one I used most heavily had too much mulchy compost. Have since improved with finer soil & Perlite.
* Temperature wasn't that consistent early on. 
 
I have all of that worked out for later germination.
 
I will complete the last of the 2nd wave of planting this week. 
 
OTHER PROBLEMS
BUGS
About 3 weeks ago, I came home to little tiny orange bugs on the underside of the cotyledons & tiny gray flying bugs- fewer of the gray ones. I sprayed insecticidal soap and the orange guys didn't last long. The tiny gray ones are still around but not in great numbers. I see one flying around a few times a day. 
 
YELLOWING
I've had about 6-8 seedlings die after yellowing. I'm positive I overwatered a little early. Last week, nearly ALL of my seedlings were looking a little yellow. I have watered very sparingly in the past 3-4 weeks. Every couple of days, some shrivel up & I give them a tiny bit of water. A few hours later, they bounce back. Besides that, I haven't really watered in the past 2 weeks. I changed my lighting around 3 days ago & have seen some changes... Was using one set of two 4" T8 lights with two 23w/1600 lumen CFLs on a clip & one 65w/950 lumen light for some heat. T8s were probably too far from the plants- maybe 16". 3 days ago, I added a second T8 fixture & ditched the other lights. I dropped the T8s to about 6" from the plants. The leaves seemed to have darken up a bit in the 3 days since. Today, I added some reflective insulation. I've had the lights on 18 hours/day. Temps have been a steady 82 degrees when they're on & 70 when they're off.
 
 
LIGHT BURN?
One of the reasons I got rid of the CFLs is because I couldn't put them anywhere except very close to the plants & noticed some darkened leaves in places where I left a CFL for several hours. Since then & since putting the four T8s on them 3 days ago, I've seen some dark spots form on the leaves that I don't remember being there before. 
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Sorry you'll have to tilt your head. Several leaves are spotty like this after moving T8s down to about 5-6" from seedlings. A few were very dark after being very close to CFLs.
NO REAL LEAVES YET??
I only have ONE seedling with anything but cotyledons. That one has had it for 2 weeks but hasn't really grown since. There are a few other seedlings that are developing other leaves but they haven't fully developed yet. Should this be a concern since some of these seedlings sprouted a month ago?
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My only true leaves. Notice leaves aren't very dark. Yellow Fatalii.      Yellow daying seedlings. About 6-8 have died.
 
I know this is a wordy post but just trying to establish some background.
Seeds started between October 26-November 7 that sprouted & are still alive:
7 Pot Primo, Red
7 Pot White
Aji Pineapple
Bahamian Goat
Bhut Jolokia, Peach
CGN 21500
Cinnamon Bell
Datil
Fatalii, Black
Fatalii, Chocolate
Fatalii, White
Fatalii, Yellow
Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel
Habanero, White Bullet
Peach Wasp
Rainforest
Rocoto, Red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow
Thai, Large Orange
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown
Trinidad Scorpion Sweet
 
Seeds started between December 2-8. A few more planned this week & then a 3rd wave around January 1.
7 Pot Bubblegum, Red
7 Pot Chaguanas
7 Pot Jonah x PN, F3
7 Pot Jonah, Red
Aji Amarillo
Aji Bolivian Long
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Colorado
Aji Lemon Drop
Aji Melocoton
Bad Brains
Bhut Jolokia, Red
Carolina Reaper
Dystopia (7 Pot Bubblegum variant)
Fatalii, Peach
Goronong
Habanero, Black
Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow
Habanero, Chocolate
Habanero, Mustard Lightning
Habanero, Paper Lantern
Habanero, Pastel Orange
Habanero, Peach
Jalapeno, Biker Billy
Jalapeno, Early
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion
Manzano, Yellow
Pimenta Leopard
Red Savina x Fatalii Red
Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow
Scotch Bonnet x 7 Pot Jonah yellow
Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate
Star of Turkey
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow
Yellow Jal x 7 Pot Bubblegum
 
Still working on the list for the last 35 or so varieties. Most annuums will go in the last round of planting.
 
Your plants look great.  They are huge already.  Probably will have to top or something with 2 months of growing to go before you can plant.  Hopefully you can get by without having to put into bigger pots.  I know for mine I won't have room to get them all into anything bigger than 3.5" pots before planting.  I wouldn't worry about topping, as healthy and big as they are, they will probably be fine.  You have so many you could just test with a few until you feel comfortable with it.   I topped several while still indoors last year when they go too tall.  After planting outside topped probably 2/3 of my plants.  All turned out fine at end.  I had a douglah last year that was growing like your brazillian ghost.  Even after planting out it never grew right.  Then about 2 weeks later I cut it in half and it then took off.  I never did produce well though, probably only about 10 pods all season.
 
yeah ur definately going to want to top those before they get more out of control lol. That jalapeno already has the Y will be fruiting in no time if you're fertilizing it  :dance:
 
in the last 2 pics you can already see how the new branches are growing, clipping the big old leaves off helps em grow more branches like that. its pretty easy to do, just use your thumbnail to cut em off.
 
ps. i can see some of the chins in the tray in background, they look great!
 
Looking good, Coach.   Lots of nice healthy growth.  
I don't think it would hurt the manzanos a bit to be topped.
 
Thanks everyone. Very helpful.

beerbreath81 said:
agree with others proably could use a topping on a few of the plants but either way think they'll be good. Remind me how long you got till plant out again
I can plant outside as early as April 15. In actuality, I'll probably harden them off and place them outside in whatever container they're in then for 10 days or so just to make sure before I plant in the ground.
 
Your plants look very healthy. I started early last year, around mid december. I ended up topping most of my early starts because I simply ran out of room in the grow area and they could not get enough light and turned leggy. They ended up doing just fine and produced well. Since we only live about an hour away from each other I would say that our growing climates are very similar. Last year I was able to plant out in mid april since the plants were already so big it was kind of a relief but they did not really do much until the ground warmed up a bit. You can see some of this from my glog from last year: http://thehotpepper.com/topic/44040-solem-2014/   
 
Anyways, your plants look great and that is a very impressive list you have going. Good luck with the rest of your season!
 
Solem22 said:
Your plants look very healthy. I started early last year, around mid december. I ended up topping most of my early starts because I simply ran out of room in the grow area and they could not get enough light and turned leggy. They ended up doing just fine and produced well. Since we only live about an hourYou can see some of this from my glog from last year: http://thehotpepper.com/topic/44040-solem-2014/   
Very helpful. I'll check that out. Thanks!
 
Nice looking plants - I'd keep that squat one with all the weird leaf formations that you asked about, by the way. It looked green and healthy, so who knows why it's growing weird.  I'm wondering if that rocoto needs to be potted up as well.  Those plants are looking big.  Nice work!
 
Pulpiteer said:
Nice looking plants - I'd keep that squat one with all the weird leaf formations that you asked about, by the way. It looked green and healthy, so who knows why it's growing weird.  I'm wondering if that rocoto needs to be potted up as well.  Those plants are looking big.  Nice work!
Thanks. Your's are looking good too!
 
juanitos said:
looks like you should make some capsicum salad.
Haha. Yeah, I still haven't gotten around to topping & pruning. Like I said, these are my mid-sized guys. The bigger ones are really bushy & all over the place.
 
A couple of people asked about my lighting so I decided to post a picture... not because I think it was particularly novel.
 
First, let me explain. I started most of my plants way too early & then I went from thinking I'd plant 60 to 120 to 200 to 300. Annnd, I'm in the process of trying to sell my house. Goes on the market Friday & we close on the new one March 20. Right now, I'm at absolute max capacity with sixteen 1020 trays, including 32 tomato plants. The tomatoes & maybe 12 of the peppers were planted 2-3 weeks ago & will need to bump up to a bigger pot but I don't have room without doing something a little creative. I moved them all into a big closet for house showing, but I actually like them in there better than where I had them. Can boost the temp easier. 

Anyway, all that to say I don't really want most of my plants to get bigger right now. Some are 10-14" tall & I've been plucking blossoms off for weeks. I decided to let a couple of plants run their course & not de-blossom. My lighting is just barely less than what I had per shelf a month ago but I've moved them back a little more so the largest ones are 8-10" away from the lights. On some shelves, I have T8s. On others, I've built the things pictured below: 4 foot 1x2" furring strip with 3 powerstrips duct taped to it. On the powerstrip, I've plugged in these adapters & then screwed in splitters to those to fit 2 CFLs. I've seen several people use the splitters, but used with a regular socket. Rather than deal with wiring, I decided to use the powerstrips & plug in adapters. They've worked well. 
 
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lol i'm guessing they don't show buyers your closet?
and here's the pepper closet... wtf bro that's weed we aren't buying this!
 
anyway looking good on the lights. did that end up being cheaper than the t8s, or why the switch? easier to move/customize?
 
juanitos said:
lol i'm guessing they don't show buyers your closet?
and here's the pepper closet... wtf bro that's weed we aren't buying this!
 
anyway looking good on the lights. did that end up being cheaper than the t8s, or why the switch? easier to move/customize?
Haha. Well, I had the shelves in my kitchen so, better tucked away. 
The CFLs produce a lot more lumens than T8s & give off a little heat.
The biggest drawback is that the CFLs hang pretty low & take up a lot of depth in the shelf. Next year, I'll probably modify so the bulbs are at a right angle- so the length of the bulb is parallel with the shelf.  
 
Wow you started early Coach!
You have a great list of plants and they are all looking good nice big & green plants
You will have loads of pods this year!
I ordered form JungleRain monday I got 3 varieties form them.
Hawaii Beach Capsicum Chinense
Scarlet Lantern Capsicum Chinense
Angkor Sunrise capsicum frutescens
I am also waiting on some other packages form nigel ,wicked mike & replacement form Judy for Tobago Seasoning getting Peach Congo (PL)
So I am waiting to plant my Capsicum Annuum's &tomatoes.
Sorry Coach for rambling on like this in your glog didn't mean to hijack it .
I wish you the best of luck this growing season looks like your off to a great start!
 
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