beer Official Brewdown Thread!!!

grantmichaels · Nov 14, 2016

I have all three, but they are old, and I'll have to step up (once or twice) ... and I can't start today.

grantmichaels · Nov 14, 2016

I'll have to see if I have flour when I'm done with work! :rofl:

Thegreenchilemonster · Nov 14, 2016

Lol! I heard about people doing that with their NE IPAs.

Ozzy2001 · Nov 14, 2016

Thegreenchilemonster said:
Lol! I heard about people doing that with their NE IPAs.

I've read a few articles saying that. Wheat proteins and such. Lots of whirlpool hops and dry hops will do most of it.

CaneDog · Nov 14, 2016

Thegreenchilemonster said:
Nice! It's my first NE IPA as well. What kind of yeast did you pitch? I went with WLP005, hoping some of the fruity esters will compliment the hops and style.

I went with WY1318, but with the same idea in mind. I'll keep the ferm temp up around 70/71 and see if that helps. There's a couple WLP's I would have liked to try with this style, but I'm in semi-boycott mode because I'm not a fan of their new packaging. Will be interesting to hear how the 005 treats you on this.

CaneDog · Nov 14, 2016

And the rest of the goods...

Ozzy2001 · Nov 14, 2016

Chugging along

wheebz · Nov 15, 2016

here is the recipe for one of our NE IPAs on our 1bbl pilot system, this was the original Animorphus recipe before I tweaked it into what it is now, Changeling 2

https://untappd.com/b/collusion-tap-works-animorphus-changling-2/1741853

70% Pilsner, 15% oats, 15% torrified wheat

zero boil hops

ferment with London III @ 67 degrees

Hops @ Whirlpool - 5oz Chinook, 5oz Mosaic, 5oz Belma

Hops at Dryhop - 1lb Mosaic, 10oz Citra @ day 5

crash day 8 if VDK passes, transfer day 9 into brite tank and keg day 10

one of the quickest beers we make

Ozzy2001 · Nov 15, 2016

Wow. That's a LOT of hops.

Ozzy2001 · Nov 15, 2016

Although not as much as I thought when you scale it down.

wheebz · Nov 15, 2016

for a 7bbl batch I use 18 pounds of hops total

Ozzy2001 · Nov 15, 2016

Do you do a test for VDK or can you tell by looking/tasting it?

wheebz · Nov 15, 2016

tasting it

we maintain the sample at 140-160 degrees for 4 hours, then let it naturally cool down and then taste it

Thegreenchilemonster · Nov 15, 2016

Interesting recipe, sice there are no boil hops. I only used a half ounce of Target hops for a 60 minute boil in my NE IPA. I bet your Animorphus is delicious!

Ozzy2001 · Nov 15, 2016

So 0 boil hops has basically no IBUs right? I imagine it taste pretty sweet then no?

grantmichaels · Nov 15, 2016

I've read that you actually do get IBU's from whirlpool hops, and even cold, but it's low ... and yet, not as low and one might imagine either.

Ozzy2001 · Nov 15, 2016

Interesting....mine should be around 50
Subdued for me.

wheebz · Nov 15, 2016

We hit around 50 IBU's on our double IPA

You figure we are maintaining 205-210 degrees for the 20 minutes of whirlpool, plus the 45 minutes it takes to cool the beer in to the fermenter

its quite a bit to be honest, you still get quite a lot of isomerization even without being at a full boil

grantmichaels · Nov 15, 2016

Yeah, those last two batches I made proved that over here ...

One was never even boiled. Admittedly that was weird for never having a chance to have a hot break, but the other (20 min boil with only flame-out (Neomexicanus Ales for ALS) hops) was plenty hopped ...

Thegreenchilemonster · Nov 15, 2016

wheebz said:
We hit around 50 IBU's on our double IPA

You figure we are maintaining 205-210 degrees for the 20 minutes of whirlpool, plus the 45 minutes it takes to cool the beer in to the fermenter

its quite a bit to be honest, you still get quite a lot of isomerization even without being at a full boil

That's good to know. I didn't realize the whirlpool increased bitterness that drmatically. I used 3 ounces of hops for a 20 minute hop stand at 190 degrees, before chilling. I guess my brew will have more IBUs than anticipated. I just dropped my last dry hop charge in. I'll crash it on Saturday, and bottle it on Sunday.