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PaulG 2012

I'm chomping at the bit to get started with some new chilli varieties this coming Spring. So far I've just scratched the surface with Poblanos, Jalapenos and Serranos, all of which I really like. I've been egged on by a new Second Generation Mejicano neighbor as we've talked about hot chillis over the back fence! He helped me make some Pico de Gallo with my Serranos and Early Girl tomatoes and has some great recipes from his mother and grandmother. Hopefully I'll be able to share some of them on this forum in the future. I need to grow more Cilantro. Oh yeah!

I've ordered seed from several sources which received at least a few good comments on this forum (6/12 - items crossed out did not germ, or weren't planted this year):

US Hot Stuff:
Bolivian Rainbow
Yellow Peter
Nosegay
Trinidad Scorpion (from Spankycolts)
Devil Tongue

The Hippy Seed Company: Seed Packet Mixes
NuMex Twilight (from Siliman)
Yellow Jellybeans
Tom Thumbs
Wild Texas Tepin

Refining Fire: Seed Packet Mix
Scotch Bonnet
Chocolate Habanero
Jamaican Red Mushroom

New Mexico State University:
Chiltepin
Omnicolor
Red Carribean Habanero
Orange Habanero

Pepper Gal:
Aji Yellow (request from a Peruvian friend of ours!)
Thai Hot

Peppermania:
Inca Lost
Fatali
White Habanero (from Spanky)
Red Savina (cross with Fatali, from Spanky)
Bishop's Crown
Inca Red Drop
Orange Rocoto
Congo Trinidad

I doubt I will be able to try all of these out this year, but I have saved my seeds in small glass jars with tight-fitting lids for storage over the next year. I have been saving seed from other garden produce and have had good luck with germinating them after two or even three years. The jars are stored in boxes in the garage for a cool dark location for them. I have ordered several compact varieties with an eye toward trying to winter over some of my plants this year. Since I didn't even know peppers were perennial, I can say I've already learned something from this forum!


I purchased a small greenhouse from One Stop Gardens (via Harbor Freight) for $300 four years ago. This is one of the greenhouse kits I've noticed in the greenhouse advertsing bar at the bottom of some of the pages on this forum. This picture is from Spring/ Summer 2011. You can see my tomato and pepper starts on the sheves. I winter over some bonsai trees and jade plants as well as geraniums, begonias and Gerbera Daisies. In the winter, I use a small space heater (visible on ground in the picture) to keep the temp at 40F during the few cold weeks we experience here. So far it has worked pretty well. If overwintering pepper plants becomes a reality I'll be making more room in the greenhouse! I've started a thread in the Grow Tech forum to discuss issues which crop up with these units.

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January 14, 2012:

Composting:

Okay, I need to do something outside. I know, I'll dig out a compost bin. We've had a little dry cool weather, so the worms have burrowed down, and the compost is crumbly, if a tad wet.

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The first step - dig out the bin and sift the material. I use a homemade frame with a layer of 1/4 inch plastic hardware cloth backed with a layer of one inch mesh poultry netting. The fine stuff goes into the wheelbarrow, the coarse stuff into an adjacent compost bin we're still building up.

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The bin on the left is covered to keep the leafy material dry and fluffy. The dry leaves are an important layer in the compost 'cake'. The bin on the right is the one I'm digging out. Nice, dark and crumbly with lots of worms! The sifter is on the wheelbarrow, and some of the coarse stuff is already on the active compost bin in the middle. The bin in the back is resting for several of months. It has a black plastic hardware cloth cover to keep out squirrels and racoons.

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The bin is all dug out. I left about two inches of broken up compost on the bottom of the hole to create a space for the worms to move into. You can see the bin in the middle has a layer of coarse stuff spread out on the top.

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The last step is to put a nice deep layer of dry leaves on the bin we just dug out. Now that bin will rest for a at least several months or more while the earthworms move into the compost/earth interface and do their work. That will make a great base for the next cycle of composting in this bin. I put a thin layer of leaves on the middle bin, too. Now there's a nice layer cake of dirt/compost, leaves. kitchen scraps. All small yard clippings except grass go into the compost bins, even tomato vines and pepper branches and twigs. I don't even chop stuff up too much. I try to have at least 10 or 12 layers of stuff built up before I cover the bin with a layer of dirt/compost and let the worms work for several months. I'm getting about 12-18 cubic feet of compost from these bins a year. My goal is to become 'soil self-sufficient' at some point, perhaps only having to procure horticultural pumice or vermiculite and some peat moss every so often.

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The good stuff. It will go into a plastic, vented storage bin for at lest eight weeks to cure a bit. Then I mix it with a little peat moss and some vermiculite or pumice for aeration. In my large containers, I add 2 or 3 inches of compost worked into the top of the container only every year. I try not to mix up the soil layers in the big containers very much, letting the nutrients percolate down through the soil as in a natural setting. As the blog continues this summer, I'll include photos of the irrigation system and containers I use to grow my tomatoes and peppers, and a few other things.
 
haha! I know what you mean.

Rocotos are nice though, I spent some time in Lima, and Pirua Peru, and had Rocoto and Aji with EVERYTHING. It was pretty good.

I don't remember if I've told you this or not, but I brought some seeds home, but they wouldn't germinate (after going through the dryer =x).

Out peruvian friend swears by them! Can't wait to see if they produce some pods! I'm hoping these seeds are viable, since I don't think they went through the laundry : ) Who knows though? She had them wrapped in a napkin wrapped in plastic wrap, so anything is possible. Thanks for stopping by, jcr!
 
Yeah...seed train made its final stop at the Caver house today. Found some really cool stuff in there. I may start some embers, but I am going to wait a while and see how everything fits...at least that's what I am saying today, ask me again tomorrow. There are some REALLY cool seeds in that train!

Btw, the Manzanos that I started in peat pellets sprouted faster than the ones I put in the plastic container with paper towel??? Yet another unposted experiment I ran. They were faster by 4 or 5 days, but both the ones I had in the container eventually popped. Good luck!
 
I forget what I did for my Rocotos last year but I didn't have a problem... think I might have soaked them in some diluted chamomile tea before sticking them in the bags.

Be prepared to overwinter them. Maybe I just had rotten luck, but I got four ripe pods off five plants that ranged between 4 and 9 feet tall. They take a *long* time to mature.

(Then again, our summers are not good for Rocoto, which delayed pod set)
 
CANT WAIT till the seed train eventually makes its way to florida haha...

I hope it comes when I have a few pods of everything and thus lots of seeds to share...

If not, I have a cache of Orange Hab seeds (kidding, unless someone wanted some).

Its like waiting for christmas morning in a way haha.

yeah - most people that I've read that have grown them said you are lucky to get ANY pods the first year...
 
yeah - most people that I've read that have grown them said you are lucky to get ANY pods the first year...

It was frustrating because I harvested another 35 pods or so off the plants before frost, but they never ripened... oh well. Hoping I can get some pods set this spring, I already have some buds forming on the overwinters.
 
Yeah...seed train made its final stop at the Caver house today. Found some really cool stuff in there. I may start some embers, but I am going to wait a while and see how everything fits...at least that's what I am saying today, ask me again tomorrow. There are some REALLY cool seeds in that train!

That's a great dilemma to be in, buddy! Have a great time deciding how much of yard you will have to dig up! Hard to resist REALLY cool seeds! I have to admit some of the varieties sound super exotic :cool:

Btw, the Manzanos that I started in peat pellets sprouted faster than the ones I put in the plastic container with paper towel??? Yet another unposted experiment I ran. They were faster by 4 or 5 days, but both the ones I had in the container eventually popped. Good luck!

I've never tried the peat pellets, and have mixed feelings about the cups. Dirt just seems more down home to me! Will be interesting to see if the aji/rocotos sprout at all whether they do better in the dirt or the cups. What do you think was the total time from start to cotyledons either way in your experiment?


I forget what I did for my Rocotos last year but I didn't have a problem... think I might have soaked them in some diluted chamomile tea before sticking them in the bags.

Be prepared to overwinter them. Maybe I just had rotten luck, but I got four ripe pods off five plants that ranged between 4 and 9 feet tall. They take a *long* time to mature.

(Then again, our summers are not good for Rocoto, which delayed pod set)

I probably infected the cups since I really wasn't very careful with the whole process. I was more careful this time! I had it in mind to try to overwinter the Rocoto; I have seen references to the fact that it is a variety that does well in our more temperate climate here in the Pacific NW. If that is the case, I'd like to keep it going for a number of years.


CANT WAIT till the seed train eventually makes its way to florida haha...

I hope it comes when I have a few pods of everything and thus lots of seeds to share...

If not, I have a cache of Orange Hab seeds (kidding, unless someone wanted some).

Its like waiting for christmas morning in a way haha.

yeah - most people that I've read that have grown them said you are lucky to get ANY pods the first year...

Have you got your germinating system ready to go, yet? :D I can't wait to see what new varieties you and Shane start up!

It was frustrating because I harvested another 35 pods or so off the plants before frost, but they never ripened... oh well. Hoping I can get some pods set this spring, I already have some buds forming on the overwinters.

I guess the challenge makes the final result all the more rewarding!
Sounds like you are close to the goal, Sync, good luck with them!
 
Toatal time to hook was 7 days in peat I think and cotys the following day...don't remember on the paper towel seeds. I'll have to look back through the glog and see if I posted anything about it. Have had my big jims cooking for 8 or 9 days in peat though along with some aji amarillos and no hooks yet??? Hmmmm...I had really fast rates on my other annuums and baccatums. They'll pop, but I wish they'd get on with it!
 
Toatal time to hook was 7 days in peat I think and cotys the following day...don't remember on the paper towel seeds. I'll have to look back through the glog and see if I posted anything about it. Have had my big jims cooking for 8 or 9 days in peat though along with some aji amarillos and no hooks yet??? Hmmmm...I had really fast rates on my other annuums and baccatums. They'll pop, but I wish they'd get on with it!

Sometimes they just don't feel like it! Man you got a lot of buns in the oven!

These are the varieties I started with in 1/22.
The ones that were no shows are crossed out.

c. chinense: Choc. Habanero (RF), Wt. Habanero (PM), Fatali (PM),
Red Caribbean Habanero (NMSU), Congo Trinidad (PM), Yellow Jelly
Beans (THSC), commercial packet: Red Habanero (LM)

c. baccatum: Inca Red Drop (PM): OmniColor (NMSU), Bishop's Crown (PM),
Yellow Aji (PG),

c. annuum: Black Pearl (THSC), Explosive Ember (THSC), NuMex Twilight (THSC NMSU),
Wild Texas Tepin (THSC), Nosegay (USHOT), Chiltepin (NMSU), Bolivian
Rainbow (USHOT), commercial packets: Long Red Cayenne (FM), Serrano (Hume),
Poblano (Hume), Early Jalapeno (Hume), Marconi Rosso (Hume), Hungarian Hot Wax (LM)

c. frutescens: Tom Thumbs (THC)

c. pubescens: Orange Rocoto (PM)
 
Out peruvian friend swears by them! Can't wait to see if they produce some pods! I'm hoping these seeds are viable, since I don't think they went through the laundry : ) Who knows though? She had them wrapped in a napkin wrapped in plastic wrap, so anything is possible. Thanks for stopping by, jcr!

I've got some Red Rocoto seeds that I saved from some pods I bought frozen at the Spanish market here. Not too sure if the freezing process would harm them or not but I have them setting out to dry right now. I'm going to give them 3 weeks or so to dry and then see if I can get some to getminate.
 
I've got some Red Rocoto seeds that I saved from some pods I bought frozen at the Spanish market here. Not too sure if the freezing process would harm them or not but I have them setting out to dry right now. I'm going to give them 3 weeks or so to dry and then see if I can get some to getminate.

All right, RM! Sounds like a great idea. I have no idea if freezing
would damage the seeds or not. The voice in my right ear says
maybe not, the voice in my left ear says, well maybe...
Good luck, bro! Keep us posted.
 
We actually almost hit 60F today! With one window partly open, 91 in the greenhouse, 41 last night with
heater. My tomatoes are growin' great in the green house; I thought they would just kind of hold their
own, but they show good growth since going in maybe 10 days ago.
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I thought I would test the ability of the peppers to tolerate the greenhouse in present conditions. I picked three smaller peppers that were otherwise healthy to be canaries and put them out there this afternoon when it was warm. Will check on them tomorrow and see how they survive the 41 degree nights. One good thing, no wind chill or driving rain! I guess that's two things. Here are the volunteers, left to right, Marconi Rosso, Cayenne transplant, Poblano shooting up:
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Here they on the shelf with the tomatoes:
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Back inside, things muddle along. All the trays got a shot of fertilizer today. I had a conversation in
someone's thread about using gallon jugs for mixing the ferts and watering with dilute versions every
watering, but after 90 minutes searching for it, gave in and can't remember which thread it was in
senior moment.

So, I decided to take matters into my own hands and mix a gallon of Alaska fish 1 Tbs/gal and a gallon
of Botanicare CalMag 1tsp/gal. Then I mixed a watering can with 1/2 water, 1/4 fish and 1/4 CalMag
so the fertilizers were 1/2 strength, and watered with that. The plants are 5-7 weeks old, so I think they
can handle that strength. My question is can I water every three days with that, or is it too strong? I
could easily make a 1/4 strength solution for frequent watering.

I also want to use a kelp foliar, but am not sure about timing. Maybe these plants are too young for that?
I have some Age Old Kelp liquid by Age Old Organics; it says spray weekly.

Speaking of fertilizer, the clone transplants are showing vigorous growth. I think they
like the Earth Juice Rainbow Mix Grow with Mycorrhizae, and dry molasses mixed in
with the soil. In some cases the oldest leaves are beginning to fade but the new growth
is green and healthy looking. Here are a few more examples. These cuttings were taken
on 2/12, 40 days ago. The numbers refer to the donor seedling.

Red Caribbean (6 days to hook/55 days since hooking):
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Congo Trinidad (7/54):
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Chocolate Habanero (8/53):
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Chiltepin (8/53) actually a rescue transplant accidently beheaded:
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Wild Texas Tepin (15/46) a little bit hairy:
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Red habanero (11/50) the branching is evident now and it will fill the top of the pot soon:
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Yellow Aji (9/51) a new branch emerging at the base:
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Okay, I have to go visit grow logs and watch the second half of the Blazers/Lakers game.
Hope you all have a good night, and that your peppers are growin'!
 
Cool leaf on the Red Hab! Ate a handful of pequins with my spaghetti tonight. Can't wait to have some fresh ones! I still remember your modest initial list...far cry from that now!
 
Cool leaf on the Red Hab! Ate a handful of pequins with my spaghetti tonight. : ) Can't wait to have some fresh ones! I still remember your modest initial list...far cry from that now!


I like the double leaf on that plant as well :)

Hey fellas, thanks for stopping by. That little Red Hab has turned
out to be a cool plant. It's growing so fast I can't believe it. I'll
post a pic in the next day or two. Enjoy the weekend, guys!

Great glog. Just finished reading it. Everything looks good.

Thank you, sir. Appreciate that you stopped in for a look.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
 
keep an eye on that limb... if it survives, when it starts producing pods, save some seeds, and see if they reproduce the anomaly :)

I had not thought of that. Will try to keep track of it!
 
it may be some kind of siamese twin thing... I dunno what to call it in plants... But if so it probably wouldn't pop back up... But if it is a mutation in leaf shape, its well worth keeping around... We could have Moruga scorpions, with Paul's Leaves running around :rofl: as if our nomenclature isn't difficult enough as is :).
 
It's getting too crazy around here! Help!

I have a feeling it's just a spurious defect of some kind,
just like the fused cotys on some of my plants a couple
of months ago. No effect on the plant, and no other occurances.

Will keep an eye peeled.
 
Paul how about Clone Master P the duplicater the root maker, the Scoville Skipper making heat out of nothing at all .. Just spit balling here I hear we're trying to find you a nickname? My brother you are blessed with mad pepper skills and you my friend are genuine .. really good people. It makes my day when you stop by my Glog and I love stopping by here. We will hook up soon I'm
sure of that we just live too damn close.Next year I'm gonna try some cloning myself! Awesome stuff my friend.
 
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