PaulG 2019

No grow log for the 2018 season other than the Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques
thread dedicated to Trippa's cross. That one is an ongoing community project going into
second year and a test of the F7 generation. I imagine I will mention it once-in-a-while in
this thread, but the details of its progress will be in the dedicated thread.
 
I am deciding on a grow list for the 2019 season after growing only Trippa's cross this
season (2018). I definitely have some old favorites that will comprise the great majority
of the grow. I have limited space, so I'm counting on nature to help me make the final
decision. I'll probably start lots of seeds since I'm gun-shy from the poor germination
rates the past couple of seasons.
 
Here's the pool. Would be nice to be able to grow a bunch of all of them!  I think my
neighbor will shelter the overflow in his yard, but we'll see what to plant and how many
based on what might germinate 
 
c. chinese - 10 varieties: 

• PdN x BMJ, F7, white and violet varieties, Trippa's cross
• Fatali, F2 of seed from Pepper Joe's
• 7 Pot Burgundy, brown phenotype, pecan shape from 2017 F2 of the 7PB from Windchicken 
• Scotch Bonnet, MoA, F2 of seeds from John/Sim, not high production, but some nice pods
• JA Red Habanero, F5 of seed from Walk Good/Devv
• Yellow Scorpion, F7 aka Yellow Trinidad Moruga Scorpion and CARDI Scorpion, from Spankycolts plant 2012
• Bhut Jolokia, Red, F4, from Spankycolts plant 2012
• Bhut Jolokia, Chocolate, F3 of seed from Georgia Growhead
• Bhut Jolokia, hybrid, F2 - I believe it is a  (BJred) x (Pdn x BMJ F1 or F2)
• Yellow 7 Pot, F2 of seed from Trippa 2013

c. annuum - 4 varieties:

• JA Red Mushroom, F3, brown phenotype, seed from Refining Fire
• Pimenta de Padron - Spanish seed, fry up while small and green, throw on some salt
• Pimenta del Piquillo - Spanish seed, sweet, very flavorful, small stuffers
• Guindilla - Spanish seed, spicy heat, great pickled, long and skinny

c. frutescens - 2 varieties:

• Nagahari from Tezpur, India, supposedly very, very hot freebie from Pepper Joe's 2017
• Chili Costa Rica, F2 (2014) from Hippy Seed Company seed, 2012

c. pubescens - 1 variety:

• Red Rocoto, F3 of Peruvian Market seed, 2016

That about does it. Seeding time will be here before we know it!
 
 

 

[PaulG]

Ha! take that PT fiends 
 
The Chiltepin is now 4/4 after this
last sprout  emerged after 26 days.
The corkscrew-stemmed seedling
will be rescued:

 
The original Chiltepin seedling is
putting out tiny leaves at the tiny
leaf nodes. This is one tiny seedling:

 
The Peruvian Red Rocotos, topped 
January 9th, so 26 days ago:

 
Flower bud on larger of the two Red
Rocotos:

 
The small 7 Pot Burgundy Pecan
seedling will also be rescued:

 
Rescue seedlings:

 
The Bhut Jolokia hybrid is really starting
to show off its purple genetics:

 
Hope everyone is happy and healthy, and
your grows are going ahead full steam.

 

[Mr. West]

Wow the axillary shoots formed very fast on that piquin.

 

[PaulG]

Wow the axillary shoots formed very fast on that piquin.
It might turn out to be a bushy little monster!

If I remember correctly, this was a big, rangy plant
with lots of branches. Funny the seedling is so small  
The seed was from 2014, so the 4/4 germ rate is pretty
darn good. Maybe it will have good genetics!
 
I'm going to try to keep this one small (#3 pot) and see
if I can OW it this coming Winter.  
 
Thanks, for the visit. I hope your having success this
season!

 

[CDNmatt]

Your stuff is just coming along so nicely Paul...how often are you feeding those little fellas?

 

[PaulG]

Thanks, Matty. You're making progress on your end,
too, my friend!
 
The seedlings get some 1/2 strength Alaska Fish Fertilizer
as soon as they have a well-developed set of true leaves.
When the third set of leaves emerges, I go up to full strength.
 
After transplant with B-1 and Molasses at about six weeks,
they get a rotation of water, Silica Blast, and AK Fish Fert.
 
Oh, yeah, and Azos when put into beverage cups,
and Mykos when potting up from them.
 
Hope your season is being fun for you, brother!
 
edit: Forgot to mention I fertilize each watering until transplant
time. I weigh them to see if they need water. A cupful of my soil
out of the bag weighs about 250 grams, a bit over 350 grams with
4 ounces of water when seedlings go in cups.

 

[Walchit]

Got that shit down to a science. I was gonna buy some azoz. That stuff is more expensive than mycos! I ordered a kilo of mycos today though.

 

[PaulG]

Got that shit down to a science. I was gonna buy some azoz. That stuff is more expensive than mycos! I ordered a kilo of mycos today though.

You know, Andy, my grow is so small that
a little bag will last me two seasons!

Not sure about the science part.
Seems like I do something different every
year and forget to learn from my mistakes

Guess what I got today, Andy?
(He said he was sending a few seeds!)

A thousand thanks, brother! Looking forward
to trying these sauces! And planting the seeds!

 

[Walchit]

The post office just put a shit ton of stamps on there huh? That's kinda crazy. I figured since you liked the other sauce I might as well send a couple more. That country Bhumpkin didn't turn out how I wanted it, but you can probably find something to use it on.

 

[TrentL]

Going to add Yellow Brain Strain to the
attempted 2019 grow.
 
Seeds from Pepper Guru's Growdown
2018 plant.
 

 
Yellow brain strain did remarkably well at The Farm last year, I only had one lonely plant, but it produced enough to actually sell pods (I even had pods get tossed as I couldn't move all of them!). MAN those were good tasting! Not as violently hot as the red version but the taste and smell were outstanding. 
 
 

Fresh in from MarcV In Schoten, the original
Din Bjarne strain BOC! Thanks, Marc. Much
appreciated, my friend! Will definitely give
these a go in a couple of weeks!

 

My BOC are originals from the original year as well! Will have to compare pods if I get mine to pop...I know you will.

Edit: PAGE TOPPER IS BACK!

 
OOOH! Originals, very cool. I'm growing BOC that Devv sent me last year. I threw out a big "help me!" after I had a rough start, and a half dozen forum members sent me more seeds than I could plant last year. Stuff that didn't go in the dirt last year is going in this year. Every single type sent is getting grown in isolation, the intent to make good on the promise I wasn't able to keep last year - to deliver back to folks isolated seeds. I didn't get the high tunnel done in time, didn't get the soil mix equipment, irrigation set up, etc in time last year. But it's all ready to roll this year. 
 
So far I'm 13/22 cells on BOC that scott sent.

 

[PaulG]

The post office just put a shit ton of stamps on there huh? no kidding - all forever stamps, too! That's kinda crazy. I figured since you liked the other sauce I might as well send a couple more. That country Bhumpkin didn't turn out how I wanted it, but you can probably find something to use it on.

 Going to try some on some grilled shrimp
in a few minutes, Andy! 
 
Later: Wow, that Jalapeño Pineapple is bomb on
grilled shrimp in the shell! Really nice flavor, perfect
with seafood or thai, I bet. Mmmm, glazed on a shrimp
skewer?    Yeah...
 
Thanks a million, Andy.

 

[TrentL]

The next to hook in the replacement grow.
Note the purple stems!

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Purple stems.. what the hell are those and how do I get some?
 
Those are SO cool looking!

 

[TrentL]

I have a few seedlings struggling as well with helmet heads...I keep seeing you guys getting them of with alot of success but I am terrified to try it myself, might have to let nature sort it out on its own.

 
Regarding helmet heads, last year I did an experiment with soil tension and helmet heads were many times more likely to happen when there is insufficient soil tension. I lightly compact the top of my starting media with my thumb after seeding - that gives the seed some resistance, and helps the plant pull the cotys out. If the top of the soil gets dry, or is loose, the seed-head tends to pop out and only about half of the seedlings will eventually shed it on their own; the other half dying, or requiring intervention.
 
Short version, seedheads are almost universally a symptom of too loose of starting media or top layer getting dry. The pepper seedlings need to meet a little resistance as the hook emerges to pull the cotys out.

 

[Walchit]

I've gotten mixed reviews on that sauce. Mainly just people saying they like some of the other sauces more. I thought it was pretty good. When I get some second batches of these other sauces done I will send you out some more

 

[PaulG]

 
Purple stems.. what the hell are those and how do I get some?
 
Those are SO cool looking!

This is a spurious cross of a Red Bhut Jolokia
and a purple variety I was growing a few seasons
ago. This is only the third generation, so I hope to
have two plants this season to see what the phenotypes
look like. I had two different pods for seeds, but the
first round strain did not germ so this is the second
try this season.

If you are interested, I should have some seed stock at
the end of this season. Will post pics of the BJ Hybrid
throughout the season.

 

[TrentL]

This is a spurious cross of a Red Bhut Jolokia
and a purple variety I was growing a few seasons
ago. This is only the third generation, so I hope to
have two plants this season to see what the phenotypes
look like. I had two different pods for seeds, but the
first round strain did not germ so this is the second
try this season.

If you are interested, I should have some seed stock at
the end of this season. Will post pics of the BJ Hybrid
throughout the season.

 
Yes, I'd definitely be interested in growing it out for a generation or three. 
 
I've got Moruga x Reaper growing (Which this year will be F3, assuming the originals seeds I got were F1 from pepperlover), that like to pop with purple stalks but nothing remotely close to THAT purple. Man those you posted a pic of were brilliant colored. Even the PDN's weren't that brilliant of a color. 
 
I'm curious to see how the pods turn out on the one you are growing!

 

[CDNmatt]

This is a spurious cross of a Red Bhut Jolokia
and a purple variety I was growing a few seasons
ago. This is only the third generation, so I hope to
have two plants this season to see what the phenotypes
look like. I had two different pods for seeds, but the
first round strain did not germ so this is the second
try this season.

If you are interested, I should have some seed stock at
the end of this season. Will post pics of the BJ Hybrid
throughout the season.

 

Interesting...I have a few plants that came up with purple stems..I wasn't sure if they were fookered or it was the trait of the plant.
 
I will go take a look shortly and see what kind they were. very cool though, I really like that kind of stuff.

 

[PaulG]

Here is a picture of the original seedling from
the cross in my 2015 grow:
 
I'll see if I can find some pod pics.
 
7/19/2015:

 
7/31/2015:

 
8/10/2015:

 
8/12/2015:

 
8/28/2015:

 
9/7/2015:

 
That's all from 2015. I'll try to post
some from 2016 if I can find any.
 
The 2016 plants in this post.
 
2016 BJ Hybrid pods here, here, here, here, here, here and here and here and here (pod phenotypes)
 
That's about the whole story on the BJ Hybrid. 

 

[PaulG]

 
Yes, I'd definitely be interested in growing it out for a generation or three. 
 
I've got Moruga x Reaper growing (Which this year will be F3, assuming the originals seeds I got were F1 from pepperlover), that like to pop with purple stalks but nothing remotely close to THAT purple. Man those you posted a pic of were brilliant colored. Even the PDN's weren't that brilliant of a color. 
 
I'm curious to see how the pods turn out on the one you are growing!

Check out the post above, Trent. I'll def save you
some seeds. If my little cutting makes it, I might
have two plants for some variation, These seeds
came from a lumpy, oily pod.

 

[Devv]

Everything is looking good Paul!
 
I guess all of us have thang for the purple in the plants. They certainly are purdy

 

[TrentL]

Check out the post above, Trent. I'll def save you
some seeds. If my little cutting makes it, I might
have two plants for some variation, These seeds
came from a lumpy, oily pod.

 
Ok that backstory is interesting. It looks like it almost certainly crossed with a purple annuum of some sort? Whenever I've had chinense/annuum cross the taste of the resulting hybrid was horribly bitter (the "Habapeno s*** pepper" as they came to be known among my buddies that I crossed one year on a whim comes to mind, as does a cayenne x random unknown chinense donor another time). 
 
What do these taste like? Sweet and hot? Is there a 7-pot / bhut smell to the pods? How thick is the flesh? Prone to any rotting on the plant? Stems solid or brittle? Much variety in pheno or sample size too small to know? Looks like they grow tall and spindly like a purple Jalapeno plant.

So many wild variables come in to play going cross species that finding a nice stable hybrid may be tough. 
 
I can definitely give them a dirt test to see how they stand up to fusarium wilt, bacterial leaf spot, and sclerotinia sclerotiorum. Had all three pathogens in the field last year. (Plants innoculated with mycorrhizae withstood 100% of the resident fungus, while those which didn't get inoculated had a lot of culls during field walks)
 
Part of the reason I'm growing so many varieties this year is to see how each specific variety handles our native Illinois soil pathogens vs. potted isolated control plants. So I'd definitely be interested in testing new varieties if your plant makes it this year!