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PIC 1's...Pepper Graphic...2014

Time to get this Grow off the ground...
 
 
 
 
 

 
Well sort of...at least the indoor part of it.  Here's the current look at some of my outdoor containers. We've had higher than normal snow amounts since December. A couple of hard frosts to boot. That may kill alot of the spring White Fly that have been dominant the last 2 seasons.
 
A Couple Shots from the Most Recent Seasons
 
 
 

 
I've started out my seeds for many years in Dec/Jan, and no doubt will provide nice plants with rewarding harvests.
But when you have to start indoors under lights it comes with a cost of time, material and utilities. With some thought I've finally come to (my senses)  a conclusion. As of Febuary 1st I have roughly 14 weeks to plant out. I'm confident that I can raise healthy plants indoors in that span. So this year will be the test...who knows maybe next season will be a March startup.......a march to the finish !
 

 
This was my largest harvest last season, late August, 40+ lbs......a few hrs and many beers worth of picking.  
The harvests after this were a few bushels here and there down to the 5 bucket pulls once a week come late September.
 
Enough of the Old and in With the New...
 
Lights...Action......Camera !
 
 

 
Speaking of lights...my current and permanent grow area has been moved down to the sub basement. I gave up a spare bedroom which has been converted into a guest room........ :rolleyes:
I currently have alittle over half the room and lighting setups that I had last year.  I'm planning to use every bit of it.
When running over 4k of power you need to have enough "juice"  to supply the lights safely. Inaddition to the circuits I had in the past for the basement grow I've added 2 additional 20a dedicated runs. Also for those who don't, having a smoke detector within perimeter and a fire extinguisher nearby would be a good idea, especially when running HPS units.
 
 
 
I'm still in the process of mounting some lights, and unless they're being hard wired its a good idea to keep the power cables off the floor
 

 
Here's a photo of the plant framing before the shelving is put into place. The deminsions are 54" wide and 12' long.
There's 3 tiers....top has 7 six bulb high bay T8 fixtures, middle tier (shown) has 10 four bulb close spaced T8's with a 6 bulb T8 at each end. The bottom has currently 4 six bulb T8's with a few more being added. The sides have 70% Aluminet shade cloth with can be rolled up unto a pvc pipe and secured to the ceiling. The cloth can let air circulation through by the means of a fan(s). The ends of the framing have foiled faced styro insulated panels.
 
 
 
Here we have cups ready to go, each cup may have anywhere between 2 and 20 seeds depending on the variety.
I'm starting out alittle different with the seed soak this season. In the past I've used Potassium Nitrate (Salt Petre) for part of the soak. I'm out of it and its too late to order....what I'm doing instead is a 2 hr soak with 10% Hydrogen Peroxide/ water mix.......drain out then a 24hr soak with a brew of Chamomile Tea (4 tea bags to a gallon of distilled) plus one drop of Superthrive to the gallon. I haven't used the tea before but have heard excellent results in regards to damping off prevention or seed fungal issues.
 
 
 
The mediums for the indoor grow.....Hoffmans for the seed starter. For the potting up I'm using a mix of Happy Frog, Ocean Forest and Pro-Mix. These will get equally mixed into thirds. My usual Fafards MetroMix is not in stock. These will give great results as I've used them in the past.
 
a few more shots later after dinner...........did some body say Octopus in Red Sauce.....yum
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Quick update.....
 

 
Made a couple of items for last weekends football get together. Here's a Southwest Roasted Corn and Black Bean Salsa...roasted Hatch, Poblano's, Jalapeno's and Serrano's...........someone actually said this was hot............. :confused:
 

 
The same person devoured alot of these Sugar Cookies with Habanero Jelly....... she didn't notice the heat in these........ :lol:
 

 
Guatemalen Yellow Rocoto's ripening up.
 

 
Ghost Pepper 
 

 
Thai Chili
 

 
Lighter pheno Jamaican Red Habanero
 

 
Hawaiian Chili
 

 
UBSC Brown
 

 
The aisle's are starting to close and it's becoming difficult to harvest everything...so some of the peppers will stay on the plants until the weekend.
 
back with the harvest shots...in a minute.
 
 
 
 
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     Also, now that I've had a bit to look around I'd just like to say that my glog wants to be this glog when it grows up. This is capsicum craziness! You've given me so many good ideas for all the pepper jelly I'll be making soon! Muahahahahahahah!
 
Great looking foodies and pod porn Greg... I'll have to give the Thumbprint cookies with Jalapeno jelly a whirl sometime, and the black bean-corn salsa looked scrumptious! I particularly liked your pics of the yellow Rocotos... my Manzanos are just starting to color up... so glad to see yours in full swing. :dance:
 
thanks...
 

 
There's a sign that's Summers over ...........when the Autumn Climatis is starting to bloom on the Arbor.
 

 
With the needed rain starting tonight, I thought it would be best to harvest most of the peppers after work.
Here's a pile of Reapers..
 

 
Harvest closeup with a Brown UBSC on top.
 

 
More of a mix of things.
 

 
This pull totaled just under 49 lbs......with many more pods left on the plants, I decided to leave them be as the daylight hrs are dropping, but the mosquitos were building in numbers.
 

 
Nasty looking Reaper.
 

 
Even "Sunny"  wanted to check it out.......lol
 
more shots later in the week........thanks for taking a look...
 
Awesome images and plants, mind boggling.  I wonder if you would mind sharing the recipe for the Southwest Roasted Corn and Black Bean Salsa?  It looks delicious.
 
HillBilly Jeff said:
Love that mountain pile of bonnets. I think I put about 1/2 that much in my bonnet ferment.
 
I've done that before and it's mighty tasty..........let it ride for a long, long time...
stickman said:
Nice bark on that Jerk Chicken, and another bumper harvest... I really like how you roll Greg! :party:
 
Do you have any pointers on getting pepper jelly to set up properly? I made some Jalapeno jelly with the recipe that came with the box of liquid pectin and it never did... even when I put it in the 'fridge. I don't want to add more sugar, so I'm guessing more pectin. Thanks for the help! :)
 
Thanks Rick...the chicken was tasty, most of the marinade was under the skin of the chicken. What you see is the skin that's taken on the smoke from the pimento wood.
 
As far as the pepper jelly setting up....any recipe on the pectin box/packages are full proof..and will set up nicely if not varied
What's most important is to bring the solution to a rolling boil that begins to foam. You need to keep stirring that for a good ten minutes before adding any pectin....then continuing to stir the boil another minute, or so. My jellies begin to seize and slow set  as
I'm funneling it into the jars. Although any recipe doesn't recommend doubling the amount of ingredients, I do so since I have a burner on my Viking  range that can boil anything in a very short time..pasta water, hot sauce, jellies...etc.
 
I can see your point about not adding additional sugar to the jelly. Another alternative is to use a high pectin fruit juice instead, such as apple juice with powdered pectin. I've done that when making a slurry sauce for ice cream..loose marmalades..or plain ole glaze for a pork roast on the grill roto.
 
I also use TIC Gums and Xanthan in hot sauce making that both have respective thickening and isolation  purposes 
dash 2 said:
bump

     Also, now that I've had a bit to look around I'd just like to say that my glog wants to be this glog when it grows up. This is capsicum craziness! You've given me so many good ideas for all the pepper jelly I'll be making soon! Muahahahahahahah!
 
Thanks man....where in state are you ?
ronniedeb said:
Those cookies look amazing.
 
I tried one before they were all gone....the pepper jelly gave them a nice finish
stickman said:
Great looking foodies and pod porn Greg... I'll have to give the Thumbprint cookies with Jalapeno jelly a whirl sometime, and the black bean-corn salsa looked scrumptious! I particularly liked your pics of the yellow Rocotos... my Manzanos are just starting to color up... so glad to see yours in full swing. :dance:
 
Thanks Rick..my Manzanos and Rocotos are both located with some protection from the cold winds we get off the lake. I'm hoping to get a bunch to stuff for an appy before the end of the season..........that's football season I'm talking bout !
 
I wouldn't consider overwintering any of those species since my grow area's get pretty warm when the lights are at full swing. The plants seem to suffer under extreme conditions. I may start up some earlier next season to get a jump outdoors.
Robisburning said:
Awesome images and plants, mind boggling.  I wonder if you would mind sharing the recipe for the Southwest Roasted Corn and Black Bean Salsa?  It looks delicious.
 
Thanks....
I don't have an exact recipe but I can come pretty close...I just have to refer back to the photo...and my memory.... :D 
 
Ingredients:
 
16 San Marzano Tomatoes
1 stick of celery
1 Red Onion
2 Hatch or Anaheim Peppers
2 Poblano Peppers
4 Jalapeno Peppers
4 Serrano Peppers
2 Ears or Corn
1 can of Black Beans
4 cloves of roasted Garlic
1 tsp Cumin
2 tsp Salt
2 tbl Olive Oil
Juice from 1 Lime
Half bunch of Cilantro
 
Peel and chop Tomatoes, dice Celery, chop Red Onion....add to stock pot along with 1 tsp of Salt and simmer for 15 minutes...Drain mix through strainer to release liquid and set aside in bowl. Drain and rinse can of Black Beans..adding to Tomato mix.
Grill Corn in husks along with Hatch, Poblano's, Jalapeno's and Serrano's. Once peppers are slightly blackened remove from grill, let cool..peel and chop peppers removing most of the large seeds from the Hatch and Poblano's. Add peppers to the Tomato mix.
When Corn is finished remove from grill...strip off husks, slice Corn from the cob and add to Tomato  mix.
 
Press roasted  Garlic, fold  with the remaining Cumin, Salt, Lime juice, Olive Oil and chopped Cilantro.
No need to refrigerate if use the same day...as tomatoes hold their flavor better when left a room temp.
 
The amount makes a slight bit more than is pictured 
ronniedeb said:
Great Harvest again. That's a brave cat you have there.
 
 
The harvest are coming in faster....and I am breaking some branches (minor) and stepping on fallen peppers.....lol
 I quit picking the peppers at around 6:30 last evening. I was at it for 3 hrs and gave up on it with just enough time to finish up making the dinner. Daylight hrs are shortening.
There's another few pounds of peppers hanging on the plants. Just can't keep up with the picking and processing. I've decided to grow half as many plants next year...more manageable....and Trish agrees.......ha !
I said to her I don't have time to sit with the gang in the pub after work anymore....she said what about exercising instead...huh !
 
:D
 
 Sounds like you have it pretty rough Greg   ;)  Hopefully you hang in there for one more month  :shh:
 
And I seem to recall you saying that you were going to narrow down that garden last year .  :liar:
 
Please don't your too good of a grower to allow all those seeds go to waste  :party:
 
WOW !!!!  Impressive doesn't even come close.  It looks like your whole backyard is a jungle of peppers.....if you makethe garden it smaller----do really want to mow or just pick peppers....LOL. Just plain awesome
 
Do you know your pods so well that you can just mix them up and resort them or you simply do not care and use them all together? I have yet to find the perfect picking system without separating at harvest ;) Amazing harvest as always!
 
romy6 said:
 Sounds like you have it pretty rough Greg   ;)  Hopefully you hang in there for one more month  :shh:
 
And I seem to recall you saying that you were going to narrow down that garden last year .  :liar:
 
Please don't your too good of a grower to allow all those seeds go to waste  :party:
 
At least a month...I'm hoping on getting rid of some of the pods on Halloween.............JUST KIDDIN !
Barley-pop57 said:
WOW !!!!  Impressive doesn't even come close.  It looks like your whole backyard is a jungle of peppers.....if you make the garden  smaller----do really want to mow or just pick peppers....LOL. Just plain awesome
 
Bungle in the Jungle.....
 
No grass in the backyard, pavers under the plant containers....although, I should have cut the front lawn yesterday before the rain.
Too busy picking peppers though....
JoynersHotPeppers said:
Do you know your pods so well that you can just mix them up and resort them or you simply do not care and use them all together? I have yet to find the perfect picking system without separating at harvest ;) Amazing harvest as always!
 
Actually, from the time I spend in the garden I can pretty much name any pod...Naga's or Habs....there I did it.....lol
Seriously, I do have many different Bhut/Naga's and Red Habanero's  but unless it's a deformed pod I can pretty much nail any of those out of the harvest photo.....it helps to have somewhat of a photographic memory............. :D 
 
To answer your 2nd question....I've been separating my Scotch Bonnets, and any specific individual pods but everything else has either been dehydrated, purred or ground up in 5 gallon buckets as Red, Peach, Orange, Brown....etc...
 
With less plants, or just more time I'd inividually package the pods like in the past....(1.5 yrs to retirement)
 
My garden is split into 4 different grow areas...likewise with the plants. I generally do not  group plants together due to possible crop failure mites/ or other infestations. No insect issues this season...and certainly no chemical damage. I would never subject my family or friends with pods that grew from a plant that's absorbed a potentially dangerous  pest/herbicide spraying..
 
Thanks for the comments....
ribbedturtleneck said:
49 lbs?! That's the way to grow.
 
Filled up 5 large brown paper  shopping bags with pods.....threw those on the health-o-meter scale....future harvest(s) will be trimmed down some.
 
Maybe I just grow too many that are alike for example 18 types of Thai :) At least 15 of them I do not care and they go into a blend are are all isolated in a square foot garden. But then you have 7 Pod red, Jonah and things like that that are very similar. I guess I could guess about 90% of my chinense it is the wildcard crosses that mess it up :) 
 
Awesome grow!
 
JoynersHotPeppers said:
Maybe I just grow too many that are alike for example 18 types of Thai :) At least 15 of them I do not care and they go into a blend are are all isolated in a square foot garden. But then you have 7 Pod red, Jonah and things like that that are very similar. I guess I could guess about 90% of my chinense it is the wildcard crosses that mess it up :)
 
Awesome grow!
 
Ah....Thai is a horse of a different color......yes they are, or can be very similar looking. I have a few varieties from seed packs that I picked up in  our Asian mkt area.....not in English.....so .....it's all ThAi to me.
 
This year I didn't plant any "Not" varieties......that folks have sent. 
Why not...you ask....har,har,........ simply because it's "Not" the original and I don't want to waste space for a "Mistake"
 
PIC 1 said:
 
Ah....Thai is a horse of a different color......yes they are, or can be very similar looking. I have a few varieties from seed packs that I picked up in  our Asian mkt area.....not in English.....so .....it's all ThAi to me.
 
This year I didn't plant any "Not" varieties......that folks have sent. 
Why not...you ask....har,har,........ simply because it's "Not" the original and I don't want to waste space for a "Mistake"
I also didn't plant any NOTs but have a few crosses i.e. two types of 7 POD Brown, neither brown and neither similar from the same damn pod from last year :) 
 
PIC 1 said:
thanks...
 

 
There's a sign that's Summers over ...........when the Autumn Climatis is starting to bloom on the Arbor.
 

 
With the needed rain starting tonight, I thought it would be best to harvest most of the peppers after work.
Here's a pile of Reapers..
 

 
Harvest closeup with a Brown UBSC on top.
 

 
More of a mix of things.
 

 
This pull totaled just under 49 lbs......with many more pods left on the plants, I decided to leave them be as the daylight hrs are dropping, but the mosquitos were building in numbers.
 

 
Nasty looking Reaper.
 

 
Even "Sunny"  wanted to check it out.......lol
 
more shots later in the week........thanks for taking a look...
 
Cat looks like it is accusing you of not telling it that the pepper was really hot. lol
 
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