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What does everyone think about the 2012 Solar Flares ending the world?
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that's why the mayans are a flurrying population today and aztecs are running the streets wild.
I forgot to add in the UFO conspiracy, disclosure and how they are going to evolve us into the xdimension, wait, that depends on which alien we are talking about, apparently there are several, from Star Trek gorn looking creatures to beautiful albinos.
In fact, i think we have a better handle on celestial happenings today than the made up theories of the ancients. Hubble, moon walks, satellite survaillance, you can't tell me that today's modern technology is lesser than that of the ancients crude tools. we literally look into distance galaxies with precision observation and understand the moon, sun and planets better than any generation.
Cant believe nobody has touched on the yellow stone volcano yet. I used to think about this stuff all the time, the odds are against us and its only a matter of time. The whole end of the world and thinking of my demise in general gives me great anxiety so I do not think about it much. I now live under a volcano covered in snow, its very pretty. But come 12.21.12 I will be sitting in my yard with my dogs in a lawn chair that happens to be in a kiddie pool with a cooler full of cold beer and my glock. I may pack up and head inland as the theories of flooding are pretty scary and one of my great fears is drowning. I guess we should be happy we've all made it this far.
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hola bitchola - liquor and whores. (the mens room)
Everything I've read says the first solar flare recorded by humankind was in 1859.
How could you possibly know that ancient cultures could predict them?
we all know civilations or ruling powers/govt's come to an end at some point in time. so that comment has no point. just like who's to say canadians are even around in 100 years
thats a totally different subject.
I didnt mean humans today have lesser knowledge of space. my statement was about another statement about people cant even predict weather then how can they predict solar flares, solar flares are a little easier to predict than weather cuz they go in cycles though you cant predict the exact time it'll happen but the year you can. plus ancient cultures looked to the sky & relied on the sun/stars/moon/etc....they even mapped out solar flares & comet cycles.
I personally dont know, just going off what some people (that specialize in these subjects) say about these subjects on the discovery & history channels
you mean from wiki ?
wiki quote " Solar flares were first observed on the Sun by Richard Christopher Carrington and independently by Richard Hodgson in 1859 as localized visible brightenings of small areas within a sunspot group. Stellar flares have also been observed on a variety of other stars. "
again wiki quote
" The frequency of occurrence of solar flares varies, from several per day when the Sun is particularly "active" to less than one every week when the Sun is "quiet". Large flares are less frequent than smaller ones. Solar activity varies with an 11-year cycle (the solar cycle). At the peak of the cycle there are typically more sunspots on the Sun, and hence more solar flares. "
so that pretty much sums it up that ancient cultures were able to predict solar flares, plus come on 1859 wasnt telescopes invented before that, plus once they have telescopes dont you think they'd look towards the sky ? BTW the 1st telescope was made in 1668 (maybe? cuz wiki)
but that doesnt matter when cultures lived in darkness & saw the everything space offered...unlike today human lights blockout starlight in most places.
I guess tomorrow I'll start digging my underground bunker.
Dont forget to make it flood proof just in case.
I guess tomorrow I'll start digging my underground bunker.
I tried looking for a video clip of some guy that built his own under the house, you'd have to see the video, you'd say " DAMN! " I forget the location but its in the center of the country (statewise) somewhere.
I think so....& they might of also cut out beating hearts of people. such friendly people they were
Wiki and the internet is poluted with some really abstract ideologies.
no it is not a completely different subject, it has to do with the end of the earth and there are those that believe the end of the earth has to do with UFO conspirasary theories. That, exterrestrial beings will have a say in our outcome.
The ancients couldn't predict solar flares and didn't have the knowledge to do so, again, we are lead astray on what the ancients knew, if they knew so much they would still be here and a fully documented history would exist but instead we have silly biblical scripture that states goofy things that happen 700,000 plus thousands of year before things happened. And of course, for those that really want to sell you books or a newsletter, they will tell you what is going to happen in 2012.
I am a frequent listener of coasttocoastam and amazed at the wacky guests they have, again spilling out conspiracies and the proof they have of all these things about to happen. So, much so, that some now state 2012 is not the end, and 2015 is most likely the done date, but wait, they have tossed in a provision that if 2015 doesn't do it, 2034 is the real deal.
At some point in time this foolishness has to stop, so if doesn't end in 2012, why would i give any credibility to 2015 and if that fails, well 2034 is really out of the question but someone has to make money on the suckers.
no it is not a completely different subject, it has to do with the end of the earth and there are those that believe the end of the earth has to do with UFO conspirasary theories. That, exterrestrial beings will have a say in our outcome.
until galileo our ancients could not even see planets past jupiter. and new theory has it that there are actually 13 horoscopes and not 12, so if you read your daily horoscrope and believe you are one sign, you are wrong. and the fact the solar system has changed so much in the last 1,000 years, your sun sign hasn't resided in is original place in hundreds of years.
The ancients couldn't predict solar flares and didn't have the knowledge to do so, again, we are lead astray on what the ancients knew, if they knew so much they would still be here and a fully documented history would exist but instead we have silly biblical scripture that states goofy things that happen 700,000 plus thousands of year before things happened. And of course, for those that really want to sell you books or a newsletter, they will tell you what is going to happen in 2012.
I am a frequent listener of coasttocoastam and amazed at the wacky guests they have, again spilling out conspiracies and the proof they have of all these things about to happen. So, much so, that some now state 2012 is not the end, and 2015 is most likely the done date, but wait, they have tossed in a provision that if 2015 doesn't do it, 2034 is the real deal.
At some point in time this foolishness has to stop, so if doesn't end in 2012, why would i give any credibility to 2015 and if that fails, well 2034 is really out of the question but someone has to make money on the suckers.
Well, the whole wiping out Earth thing is a fairly moot argument. If it happens, we're screwed. No rockets to Mars or whatever. Drop pants, kiss ass goodbye.
Now, if it was the whole EMP issue, that would be interesting. Diesel would be the fuel du-jour. Books would make a HUGE comeback. As would sea travel. Deforestation would run rampant, since wood is the fuel of the common man. Steam punk kids would cream their jeans since that'd be the only reliable way to get an espresso. War would again rely most heavily on manpower and positioning rather than technological force projection. The Silicon Valley would cry itself into bankruptcy. And most likely organic would cease to be a buzz word and return to being the standard.
It'd probably be batshit for the first couple years. And really it would depend on how long the condition persisted. After too long cities would have to go back to Victorian methods for delivering heat and energy. And there'd likely be some Mad Max-yness until populations stabilized for what their environments and limited trade could provide. If there are no local sources of fuel, it's back to cart and buggy days.
Looking at it in a broader impersonal sense, rather than a "Theys comin' fer my wimminz!" manner, it's a pretty interesting scenario. Some places in the world would just give a shrug and keep on living like they have forever. Maybe noticing a sudden lack of crappy Mickey Mouse t-shirts and old plastic barrels. Whereas first world countries would probably go batshit without a/c, heaters and microwaves. Nevermind the loss of their ipods and blackberries. Even country folks would be hard hit without our farming machines, automatic milkers and refrigerators. Not insurmountable changes, but suddenly they're living like great grandma did during WWI. Farmers and craftsmen would become the international rock stars and the NFL boys would be lucky if they get paid lunch to play a game. It's no fun to watch if you've got no food, no clothes and nothing to sit on afterall.
Ultimately though, it would be the suck. Medical technology would mostly be out the window. And there just isn't enough skilled labor to pick up the slack left by our machines. Between disease, starvation and general strife a staggering number of people would likely die within a decade. Humanity would survive, but civilization would get knocked back a few notches.
Now, if it was the whole EMP issue, that would be interesting. Diesel would be the fuel du-jour. Books would make a HUGE comeback. As would sea travel. Deforestation would run rampant, since wood is the fuel of the common man. Steam punk kids would cream their jeans since that'd be the only reliable way to get an espresso. War would again rely most heavily on manpower and positioning rather than technological force projection. The Silicon Valley would cry itself into bankruptcy. And most likely organic would cease to be a buzz word and return to being the standard.
It'd probably be batshit for the first couple years. And really it would depend on how long the condition persisted. After too long cities would have to go back to Victorian methods for delivering heat and energy. And there'd likely be some Mad Max-yness until populations stabilized for what their environments and limited trade could provide. If there are no local sources of fuel, it's back to cart and buggy days.
Looking at it in a broader impersonal sense, rather than a "Theys comin' fer my wimminz!" manner, it's a pretty interesting scenario. Some places in the world would just give a shrug and keep on living like they have forever. Maybe noticing a sudden lack of crappy Mickey Mouse t-shirts and old plastic barrels. Whereas first world countries would probably go batshit without a/c, heaters and microwaves. Nevermind the loss of their ipods and blackberries. Even country folks would be hard hit without our farming machines, automatic milkers and refrigerators. Not insurmountable changes, but suddenly they're living like great grandma did during WWI. Farmers and craftsmen would become the international rock stars and the NFL boys would be lucky if they get paid lunch to play a game. It's no fun to watch if you've got no food, no clothes and nothing to sit on afterall.
Ultimately though, it would be the suck. Medical technology would mostly be out the window. And there just isn't enough skilled labor to pick up the slack left by our machines. Between disease, starvation and general strife a staggering number of people would likely die within a decade. Humanity would survive, but civilization would get knocked back a few notches.
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well, all of "the sky is falling" talk kinda makes me glad I have the attitude I do..
If there ain't nothing I can do about it, then I don't worry about it...just keep on keepin' on...it there is something I can do about it, I do and just keep on keepin' on...
worrying about stuff you have no control over is nonsense...
however, the discussions are entertaining...
If there ain't nothing I can do about it, then I don't worry about it...just keep on keepin' on...it there is something I can do about it, I do and just keep on keepin' on...
worrying about stuff you have no control over is nonsense...
however, the discussions are entertaining...
It is true they didn't see past Jupiter your other statement about 13 horoscopes is just ignorant. What you mean is signs/constellations. And there are 100+ of signs all of them named by the ancients. There aren't any new ones. Their position in the sky changes over time but the ancients as far back as 250BC knew this. This knowledge cause an eventual division in astrology into tropical and sidereal, which is basically western and eastern. Both groups knew and know about it and have for the last couple of millenia. The latest "fad" reported was also reported in the 80's basically to promote a book to the ignorant masses.
As for the daily horoscopes, well those are for the most part trash and astrologers do them to put some bread on the table. It's like going to the doctor and having tell you go take some aspirin, drink plenty of fluids and get some rest. Worthless.
As for the end of the world/cosmos, it will go just as quickly and unpredictably as it came into being.
Certainly there will always be bad times and good times so, have a good patch of ground, a variety of seeds for at least mostly year round crop, plenty of ammo, a good bow, gold and silver(I suggest mostly junk silver--easy to recognize and exchange for daily goods), a year of rice, beans, flour and other canned/freeze dried goods, extra fishing line and hooks, a water purification system, a bicycle generator, toilet paper, tobacco (even if you don't smoke), and coffee. Did I miss anything?
Good luck and thanks for all the fish.
Yellowstone worries me. Cumbre Vieja a little.
Solar flares? meh.
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Wanna really twist your nug:
Look up Vacuum metastability event. It's a theory about how our universe isn't at the lowest possible energy level or something, and that an event could occur that would make a small pocket of space tunnel to a lower energy state. This would make a bubble that would expand at the speed of light, destroying pretty much the entire universe with no warning.
Sleep well.
Solar flares? meh.
Edit for:
Wanna really twist your nug:
Look up Vacuum metastability event. It's a theory about how our universe isn't at the lowest possible energy level or something, and that an event could occur that would make a small pocket of space tunnel to a lower energy state. This would make a bubble that would expand at the speed of light, destroying pretty much the entire universe with no warning.
Sleep well.
If the end of the woild comes in my lifetime I won't even notice. I'll be too busy looking good! It is pointless to bother with happenings and events that I have no control over.
well, all of "the sky is falling" talk kinda makes me glad I have the attitude I do..
If there ain't nothing I can do about it, then I don't worry about it...just keep on keepin' on...it there is something I can do about it, I do and just keep on keepin' on...
worrying about stuff you have no control over is nonsense...
however, the discussions are entertaining...
Yes they are and I do admit to fueling them sometimes just to read the reactions. I love entertainment.
The bad thing about a society breakdown would be the lack of info and the ability to swap chilli seeds on the scale that goes on now.