Wow!! Love that Tovarii!! Awesome pics John!
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Gracias amigo!Vegas_Chili said:
Hi John and Nigel, You guys really amaze me with your photography skills, truely Awesome.
Lighting can sure change the color of a flower at first I was stunned by the Tovarii flower as it looked like a yellow flower which puzzled me as I was sure that the flowers of C. tovarii was white as were the last photo of it. Sure had me going for a minute.
Looking at all the really nice photo's makes me wish I could afford a good camera setup, along with knowing how to use it correctly.
Lighting can sure change the color of a flower at first I was stunned by the Tovarii flower as it looked like a yellow flower which puzzled me as I was sure that the flowers of C. tovarii was white as were the last photo of it. Sure had me going for a minute.
Looking at all the really nice photo's makes me wish I could afford a good camera setup, along with knowing how to use it correctly.
Started 2 dozen "Blue Mystery" seeds today 
Thanks gents. I get lucky with most of the photos,always trying to learn. First and foremost,all the photos I post here are to get people intetested in these amazing plants. That is why I mostly post the flower shots and not the actual plant body.
The flash can really alter the purples in some wild flowers. I prefer taking photos in a shady area that has a lot of ambient lighting to give the real color of the flowers. The flash photos are for detail and clarity,mostly for showcasing the calyx,and inner parts of the flowers.
Wildseed, the tovarii in the picture is a shade more yellow than in real life. Just wanted folks to see the texture. They are infact yellow though,a very creamy yellow. As with most of these plants,the flowers will change depending on conditions and other factors.
Tovarii will be a light creamy yellow with 2 yellow/green spots per petal. They will get some purple in there also. This year mine are a darker yellow without visible spots due to the more ardent color.
Tovarii without flash
The flash can really alter the purples in some wild flowers. I prefer taking photos in a shady area that has a lot of ambient lighting to give the real color of the flowers. The flash photos are for detail and clarity,mostly for showcasing the calyx,and inner parts of the flowers.
Wildseed, the tovarii in the picture is a shade more yellow than in real life. Just wanted folks to see the texture. They are infact yellow though,a very creamy yellow. As with most of these plants,the flowers will change depending on conditions and other factors.
Tovarii will be a light creamy yellow with 2 yellow/green spots per petal. They will get some purple in there also. This year mine are a darker yellow without visible spots due to the more ardent color.
The 4 and 5 take pretty solid photos. I have used both and it amazes me what these phones can do.Nigel said:John is the Master, I`m just a pretender
All my photos are taken using my Samsung Galaxy S4 phone, George.
Tovarii without flash
Well heck it is yellow, I must have gotten mixed up on the photo's somewhere, and thought it was white. One thing I don't quite understand is why they have it classified with the same group that C. eximium, C. cardenasii and C. pubescens are in, are the seeds Tan or Brown or do I have this wrong also I can't quite remember which family it belongs too.
At any rate C. tovarii in truly a unique species, does the plant suffers from self incompatibility or is it self fertile, from your photo it does make pods, so I guess it is self fertile. Your photo's do capture much of what you wish to convey.
Nigel you could have fooled me, for just using a phone cam. it takes pretty good photos. I'll have to remember which smartphone is the best when I finally break away from my land line.
At any rate C. tovarii in truly a unique species, does the plant suffers from self incompatibility or is it self fertile, from your photo it does make pods, so I guess it is self fertile. Your photo's do capture much of what you wish to convey.
Nigel you could have fooled me, for just using a phone cam. it takes pretty good photos. I'll have to remember which smartphone is the best when I finally break away from my land line.
wildseed57 said:
No sterility issues. The most fruit per node I have photographed was 16 or 17.
The seeds are straw colored.
So it's been a while since I posted some pics of progress. I had some die and I still have most. A couple here for now.
CGN 21502 - C. Eximium. I have a good feeling about this one.
Same plant, different angle.
Lanceolatum looks kinda leggy or too top heavy but still nice and healthy.
Cumari pollux flowers again.
-Walt
CGN 21502 - C. Eximium. I have a good feeling about this one.
Same plant, different angle.
Lanceolatum looks kinda leggy or too top heavy but still nice and healthy.
Cumari pollux flowers again.
-Walt
Excellent looking Lance Walt, keep em green and healthy... Hows your Cumari Verdadeira doing?
Hey Portuge thanks. The cumari verdaidera is one I have outside. All or most are indoors because I had some die... I do notice that the Praetermissums in general hold up really nice in temps up to 110+. I have that one in a 5 gallon root pouch and it shows buds but they dry up. I'm betting it will explode once I get cooler temps. Right now it's doing pretty good despite the temps and situation. Here she is.
I still have a CAP 1141, right now I'm watering since some are droopy. I snap a pic of that one once it perks up.
-Walt
Hey Portuge thanks. The cumari verdaidera is one I have outside. All or most are indoors because I had some die... I do notice that the Praetermissums in general hold up really nice in temps up to 110+. I have that one in a 5 gallon root pouch and it shows buds but they dry up. I'm betting it will explode once I get cooler temps. Right now it's doing pretty good despite the temps and situation. Here she is.
I still have a CAP 1141, right now I'm watering since some are droopy. I snap a pic of that one once it perks up.
-Walt
very interesting Walt. does your Lance. have any heat to it? I was wondering the same thing about some of the C. tovarii that are being grown, are they all from the same variety or is there several types of these peppers? I know that C. flexuosum has a few different varieties that is being held by the USDA. from what i have read most of the more rare ones like the lanceolatum, tovarii and flexuosum don't have any heat .
Nice work Vegas. That lance should be close flowering if it hasn't yet? I had a couple grow straight up in the air and a couple bush out. Not sure why that is. My fav plant is a bushy one that is getting it's second wave of flowers coming on. Hope more set fruit this time. Only about 10% last round.
The C.tovarii that are being grown worldwide are from USDA. Initially,folks were having problems getting fruit from them but there seem to be some good lines flowing through our circles. Here is a pic of my plant from today. Think it is going to beat my 17 flower/node record from last year.
I have 3 different flexuosum accesions going this year and I can't see any difference except maybe plant size, and that could be growing errors on my part. I don't even factor in flower color because they vary so much depending on a laundry list of variables. They aren't as diverse as say eximium,which have different flowers and growth habits.
Here is GRIF15020
These are from my overwinteted plant
My tovarii have some heat. The flexuosum I ate last year had a very low heat,but I could feel it. I have yet to eat a lance,shouldn't be too long though.wildseed57 said:
The C.tovarii that are being grown worldwide are from USDA. Initially,folks were having problems getting fruit from them but there seem to be some good lines flowing through our circles. Here is a pic of my plant from today. Think it is going to beat my 17 flower/node record from last year.
I have 3 different flexuosum accesions going this year and I can't see any difference except maybe plant size, and that could be growing errors on my part. I don't even factor in flower color because they vary so much depending on a laundry list of variables. They aren't as diverse as say eximium,which have different flowers and growth habits.
Here is GRIF15020
These are from my overwinteted plant
Pic was unrelated.wayright said:
I was adressing wildseed about being self sterile. They are not self sterile. They fertlize themselves and the seed is viable the following year.
Flexuosum is not self sterile either,that was proven just recently with 1 single isolated flower producing viable seed. The last one that is supposedly self sterile (cardenasii) is undergoing the same experiment.
C.chacoense var. Chile Congo
very interesting Walt. does your Lance. have any heat to it? I was wondering the same thing about some of the C. tovarii that are being grown, are they all from the same variety or is there several types of these peppers? I know that C. flexuosum has a few different varieties that is being held by the USDA. from what i have read most of the more rare ones like the lanceolatum, tovarii and flexuosum don't have any heat .
Hey George, I haven't tried any of them yet. First time growing all the wilds I have. I really do hope to taste most of them. My climate here isn't very good or I really need to sharpen my skills. I pretty much got the germinating stuff down and get them growing and now I need to make them produce. One challenge after another. Lol
Nice work Vegas. That lance should be close flowering if it hasn't yet? I had a couple grow straight up in the air and a couple bush out. Not sure why that is. My fav plant is a bushy one that is getting it's second wave of flowers coming on. Hope more set fruit this time. Only about 10% last round.
My tovarii have some heat. The flexuosum I ate last year had a very low heat,but I could feel it. I have yet to eat a lance,shouldn't be too long though.
The C.tovarii that are being grown worldwide are from USDA. Initially,folks were having problems getting fruit from them but there seem to be some good lines flowing through our circles. Here is a pic of my plant from today. Think it is going to beat my 17 flower/node record from last year.
I have 3 different flexuosum accesions going this year and I can't see any difference except maybe plant size, and that could be growing errors on my part. I don't even factor in flower color because they vary so much depending on a laundry list of variables. They aren't as diverse as say eximium,which have different flowers and growth habits.
Here is GRIF15020
These are from my overwinteted plant
Thanks John, that Lance looks sexy. What size pot is it? I see dried buds on my Lance yes. It's my first time growing it and I have no idea what size they should reach before flowering. I have it in a Aerogarden with a rapid rooter and I'm only giving it GROW nutrient right now so it can get bigger. I'm dying to see the flowers and berries on it. Maybe I should switch to bloom now. I also have another Lanceolatum but that one is growing rather all than wide and today I switched to BLOOM nutrient. Hope to see a change soon.
Pic was unrelated.
I was adressing wildseed about being self sterile. They are not self sterile. They fertlize themselves and the seed is viable the following year.
Flexuosum is not self sterile either,that was proven just recently with 1 single isolated flower producing viable seed. The last one that is supposedly self sterile (cardenasii) is undergoing the same experiment.
C.chacoense var. Chile Congo
I've seen that chile congo somewhere and I think they mention it as annuum... Weird and I think it's from Nicaragua. I have to look for it and post it up so you can check it out.
-Walt
Hey George, I haven't tried any of them yet. First time growing all the wilds I have. I really do hope to taste most of them. My climate here isn't very good or I really need to sharpen my skills. I pretty much got the germinating stuff down and get them growing and now I need to make them produce. One challenge after another. Lol
Nice work Vegas. That lance should be close flowering if it hasn't yet? I had a couple grow straight up in the air and a couple bush out. Not sure why that is. My fav plant is a bushy one that is getting it's second wave of flowers coming on. Hope more set fruit this time. Only about 10% last round.
My tovarii have some heat. The flexuosum I ate last year had a very low heat,but I could feel it. I have yet to eat a lance,shouldn't be too long though.
The C.tovarii that are being grown worldwide are from USDA. Initially,folks were having problems getting fruit from them but there seem to be some good lines flowing through our circles. Here is a pic of my plant from today. Think it is going to beat my 17 flower/node record from last year.
I have 3 different flexuosum accesions going this year and I can't see any difference except maybe plant size, and that could be growing errors on my part. I don't even factor in flower color because they vary so much depending on a laundry list of variables. They aren't as diverse as say eximium,which have different flowers and growth habits.
Here is GRIF15020
These are from my overwinteted plant
Thanks John, that Lance looks sexy. What size pot is it? I see dried buds on my Lance yes. It's my first time growing it and I have no idea what size they should reach before flowering. I have it in a Aerogarden with a rapid rooter and I'm only giving it GROW nutrient right now so it can get bigger. I'm dying to see the flowers and berries on it. Maybe I should switch to bloom now. I also have another Lanceolatum but that one is growing rather all than wide and today I switched to BLOOM nutrient. Hope to see a change soon.
Pic was unrelated.
I was adressing wildseed about being self sterile. They are not self sterile. They fertlize themselves and the seed is viable the following year.
Flexuosum is not self sterile either,that was proven just recently with 1 single isolated flower producing viable seed. The last one that is supposedly self sterile (cardenasii) is undergoing the same experiment.
C.chacoense var. Chile Congo
I've seen that chile congo somewhere and I think they mention it as annuum... Weird and I think it's from Nicaragua. I have to look for it and post it up so you can check it out.
-Walt
I have seen Congo de Nicaragua and other ones,chinense and annuum. The name definitely does not fit the pepper.
There are a couple folks I have seen grow it out as chacoense. This plant has small flowers,even for a that species. Very small. It is really hard to tell a lot of them apart.
There are a couple folks I have seen grow it out as chacoense. This plant has small flowers,even for a that species. Very small. It is really hard to tell a lot of them apart.
John any secrets to sprouting lance seeds?
I`m not El Jefe de Wild, Prodigal_son, but here`s my experience with Lance seeds.
I got the seeds from Semillas.de. So far I`ve had a germination rate of 6/8 without anything out of the ordinary - didn`t soak them, didn`t treat with anything (like GA3) etc. I got 4/4 in Rockwool, 1/2 in the aerogarden and 1/2 in soil. However, I only got a single seed that germinated without the seed cap and that was in soil. It is growing fine, albeit slowly, as expected for this species.
John mentioned above that seeds that germinated with the seed cap didn`t do well for him, even when he was able to remove it from the seedling. I have not been able to remove the seed cap without killing the seedling.
I got the seeds from Semillas.de. So far I`ve had a germination rate of 6/8 without anything out of the ordinary - didn`t soak them, didn`t treat with anything (like GA3) etc. I got 4/4 in Rockwool, 1/2 in the aerogarden and 1/2 in soil. However, I only got a single seed that germinated without the seed cap and that was in soil. It is growing fine, albeit slowly, as expected for this species.
John mentioned above that seeds that germinated with the seed cap didn`t do well for him, even when he was able to remove it from the seedling. I have not been able to remove the seed cap without killing the seedling.