Only problem I have is the fact they are selling it based on the claim of it being the "Hottest Pepper in the world" -- Yet even Ted mentions that they have strains that are Hotter already grown which would mean they are advertising it falsely If they were saying it is One of the world's hottest or Hottest commercially available etc. then that's one thing but to say "The Hottest" and then in the same breath say they have hotter ones already and not release any information to back up the claims even though they also say they have done testing -- If they really do have testing and the testing backs up the claims don't you think they would be posting it everywhere to drum up even more publicity ?
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I buy seeds all the time... actually spent about $200 this year. But never have I paid $15 for 10 seeds.... the most has been $8 shipped which in my mind I reasonable for a new strain like this. For me its really the rip off of the shipping when it costs next to nothing to send world wide.
Just ordered 2 packs. Didn't realize they were already on sale...sweet.
I agree 100%... this is my other issue with this pepper.
not sure where this 15$ # came up. I ordered the seeds and a bottle of hot sauce and the shipping was 4.35$
yea i order 2 pks total was 24.93 so if you were to buy more the shipping doesn't double.
Correct. For most people they are only going to order 1 pack of seeds which would result in $15. Most sites will include shipping in the price making a pack $8 shipped.
I think the shipping will cover a number of seed packs. So to claim its $15 a pk is not really accurate.
It is when 70%+ of people will only order that pack of seeds. Thats why most sites include shipping in the cost of the packet.
You can call me crazy, a hater, jealous, or any other ridiculous descriptor that will you sleep better at night. But it is amazing how people just ignore the facts, and blindly accept the word of people whom you have never met as gospel.
How about a few facts...
1. This pepper has been marketed as the "World's Hottest Chili Pepper" without any evidence available at the time of the claim, or in the months to follow.
2. The creator himself stated that the pepper has been CONSISTENTLY hitting a spread of about 200k, and those numbers, while impressive, are still a half million below the world's hottest mark.
3. The whole marketing team refuses to release any data to back up claims that this pepper is in fact, the world's hottest. Stay tuned isn't evidence.
4. The creator and marketing team refuse to tell the community about how the pepper was created, in fears that people would "steal" the pepper (which would take at least 5 years and at that point it would be worthless).
5. The "World's Hottest Pepper Record" is for a single pepper, a number hotter than any pepper recorded in the history of the world. I don't care if you think it would be "cooler" or "better" to have the hottest average, THAT ISNT THE RECORD. So........um..yea...
6. This pepper was supposed to be rolled out on a set date and time, now we are all debating and asking questions, and BAM it is available, ahead of any evidence mind you.
Listen, I don't care if you agree or disagree, these are the facts, please try and dispute them. I am not some idiot who believes everything that is on the web. The worse case is is NOT that the pepper is hot, but not the hottest, so you are out 15 bucks, it is that now the door is open for any random grower to come around say he has the hottest pepper in the world, sell thousands of seed packets, and then, oh yea, I meant hottest average...
I have spent too much time in this thread, I'm out. But please continue to tell everyone how you "Just bought a pack of seeds and in a year will have some hot pods!", because believe me, that adds something useful to this thread.
How about a few facts...
1. This pepper has been marketed as the "World's Hottest Chili Pepper" without any evidence available at the time of the claim, or in the months to follow.
2. The creator himself stated that the pepper has been CONSISTENTLY hitting a spread of about 200k, and those numbers, while impressive, are still a half million below the world's hottest mark.
3. The whole marketing team refuses to release any data to back up claims that this pepper is in fact, the world's hottest. Stay tuned isn't evidence.
4. The creator and marketing team refuse to tell the community about how the pepper was created, in fears that people would "steal" the pepper (which would take at least 5 years and at that point it would be worthless).
5. The "World's Hottest Pepper Record" is for a single pepper, a number hotter than any pepper recorded in the history of the world. I don't care if you think it would be "cooler" or "better" to have the hottest average, THAT ISNT THE RECORD. So........um..yea...
6. This pepper was supposed to be rolled out on a set date and time, now we are all debating and asking questions, and BAM it is available, ahead of any evidence mind you.
Listen, I don't care if you agree or disagree, these are the facts, please try and dispute them. I am not some idiot who believes everything that is on the web. The worse case is is NOT that the pepper is hot, but not the hottest, so you are out 15 bucks, it is that now the door is open for any random grower to come around say he has the hottest pepper in the world, sell thousands of seed packets, and then, oh yea, I meant hottest average...
I have spent too much time in this thread, I'm out. But please continue to tell everyone how you "Just bought a pack of seeds and in a year will have some hot pods!", because believe me, that adds something useful to this thread.
I wish Ed would send Mgold a fresh pot to review on video, nothing against Ted but i like Mgolds reviews much better then he could give us a second opinion on this pepper.
i never said that i believed the claim as being "the world's hottest pepper" MGOLD! If it's new i want to grow it and was willing to buy the seeds when they came up for sale. I grow this things as hobby and could care less and the marketing bs and claims. So how could you even tell if it's close to 2million or not by putting it in your mouth? I'm guessing that only a handful of moruga pods have reached the 2 million mark to begin with so that does not really prove much or make me assume that every time it's grown that it's going to reach over 2 million shu. I think this plant looks cool and is new and i want to grow the damn thing. I''m sure next summer you will be growing the same damn thing in your backyard so stop wasting your time complaining about someone else's hard work.You can call me crazy, a hater, jealous, or any other ridiculous descriptor that will you sleep better at night. But it is amazing how people just ignore the facts, and blindly accept the word of people whom you have never met as gospel.
How about a few facts...
1. This pepper has been marketed as the "World's Hottest Chili Pepper" without any evidence available at the time of the claim, or in the months to follow.
2. The creator himself stated that the pepper has been CONSISTENTLY hitting a margin of about 200k, that is still a half million below the world's hottest mark.
3. The whole marketing team refuses to release any data to back up claims that this pepper is in fact, the world's hottest. Stay tuned isn't evidence.
4. The creator and marketing team refuse to tell the community about how the pepper was created, in fears that people would "steal" the pepper (which would take at least 5 years and at that point it would be worthless).
5. The "World's Hottest Pepper Record" is for a single pepper, a number hotter than any pepper recorded in the history of the world. I don't care if you think it would be "cooler" or "better" to have the hottest average, THAT ISNT THE RECORD. So........um..yea...
6. This pepper was supposed to be rolled out on a set date and time, now we are all debating and asking questions, and BAM it is available, ahead of any evidence mind you.
Listen, I don't care if you agree or disagree, these are the facts, please try and dispute them. I am not some idiot who believes everything that is on the web. The worse case is is NOT that the pepper is hot, but not the hottest, so you are out 15 bucks, it is that now the door is open for any random grower to come around say he has the hottest pepper in the world, sell thousands of seed packets, and then, oh yea, I meant hottest average...
I have spent too much time in this thread, I'm out. But please continue to tell everyone how you "Just bought a pack of seeds and in a year will have some hot pods!", because believe me, that adds something useful to this thread.
I do find is fishy that once people are starting to ask questions about it, it's magically released that same day. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Wow, MGOLD is only talking the truth in he post and it's 100% correct. He is posting this information to inform other people on the FACTS before buying this pepper.
Wow, MGOLD is only talking the truth in he post and it's 100% correct. He is posting this information to inform other people on the FACTS before buying this pepper.
Got my primo seeds, reapers on the way, and a stash of several others, some "not tested yet, but may be the (insert claim here)".
Further argument is useless, baseless, and speculative until the pods are produced, and munched upon.
My primo seeds came from primo, and my reaper seeds are coming from ed, and though I won't be the first retail customer to grow them, I can guarantee you that I will personally know which one I like better---with no chance of mistaken identity, unknown source, or questionable sellers---by this time next year.
(Or earlier, at my discretion.)
Further argument is useless, baseless, and speculative until the pods are produced, and munched upon.
My primo seeds came from primo, and my reaper seeds are coming from ed, and though I won't be the first retail customer to grow them, I can guarantee you that I will personally know which one I like better---with no chance of mistaken identity, unknown source, or questionable sellers---by this time next year.
(Or earlier, at my discretion.)
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I dont even know about the prices. what do they cost? 15.00?
Wow, MGOLD is only talking the truth in he post and it's 100% correct. He is posting this information to inform other people on the FACTS before buying this pepper.
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Edited by qbvbsite, Today, 08:14 AM. Not saying that he is not stating the facts either. I'm saying that he keeps bringing up the same bs that we already know and most of us are smart enough to figure out the facts on our own. Yeah buying the seeds for that price is mine and everyone else who buys them decision. I could care less about the facts he's stating. The funny thing is that all the people complaining about the strain are going to be growing next year anyway so they are just wasting our time worrying about the facts that are present right now. 10$ for seeds that he worked on for over 5 years seems like a fair deal to me. With this drought this year year in the mid-west the price of food and gas is going to be going up. What are you going to stop eating and driving your car? I thought Ed was having a press release in two days anyway. [/background]
Not to mention all the other strains i see people eating on youtube that are not tested either. Why not complain about those?
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Edited by qbvbsite, Today, 08:14 AM. Not saying that he is not stating the facts either. I'm saying that he keeps bringing up the same bs that we already know and most of us are smart enough to figure out the facts on our own. Yeah buying the seeds for that price is mine and everyone else who buys them decision. I could care less about the facts he's stating. The funny thing is that all the people complaining about the strain are going to be growing next year anyway so they are just wasting our time worrying about the facts that are present right now. 10$ for seeds that he worked on for over 5 years seems like a fair deal to me. With this drought this year year in the mid-west the price of food and gas is going to be going up. What are you going to stop eating and driving your car? I thought Ed was having a press release in two days anyway. [/background]
Not to mention all the other strains i see people eating on youtube that are not tested either. Why not complain about those?
They aren't claiming to be the hottest in the world and selling them as such. Any website claim to sell the hottest pepper in the world with no data to back it up I have a problem with. To me to seem they are trying to make a quick buck and by releasing them when people are starting to ask questions makes it even more fishy.
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