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cycadjungle said:
I don't know either pepper Joe or Ed, but I would think if there was no basis for their claims it would be close to the end of their business. With all this hype, if this pepper doesn't deliver it will be their own customers that can shut them down. They even have a place for people to rate what they get and the service. Sure, even if they have 10,000 packets at $10 each, they can make a whole $100,000. Yes, thats a whole lot of money, but grossing that much money in a year just makes for a good year of sales. The profit on those seeds goes quickly, so at best, they can be spending that money till the end of next year, but what then? Just the disgruntled customers that are on this forum can flood the internet with negative comments, on their sites and on sites like Dave's Garden, as well as the other gardening sites. Would Joe risk his entire existing business because he backed Ed in this venture? I would think there is some basis to what they say. If their pepper averages 1.4M, then it would be the pepper that holds a more consistant heat level, and to me, it would be the hottest for me to grow. For me, the bottom line is, how hot is a pepper going to be for me? Morugas may have been tested at 2 million Scovilles, but I am betting I have never grown one to be near that hot.
I think I can spend a whole $20 to get enough seeds to get some good plants up. If the taste is good, and they are at least as hot as my average Butch T or Moruga, I'll be happy. If they do average at around 1.4M, I'll be super happy. Yes, all this hype has been very commercial, but hea, these are people who are in business and the idea of being in business is to make money. If what they have is a good product, it will be worth having. If the product is not as they claim, the pepper community can do what it takes to make sure they don't do something like this again. If these people lie about what they have, and you are upset with the situation, then do something about it. Flood the market with seeds from your peppers at half the price, or give a bunch of them away for free. Posts like that show up in the search engines. People who have greenhouses can have peppers to test, and have collected their own seeds by the end of the year and will have a report before the spring seeds would go out. As I said, I don't think they would put themselves in a situation that could come to this. Time will tell, and the people who ARE willing to spend a few dollars will be able to tell the rest, the real story.
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This pretty much sums it up for me.

JHR said:
I am proud to say that I have some of these in my possesion now, and a review will be up on Friday.
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How will you have pods by then? I want some of your soil! :P
 
Hey all,

I have a hot mustard, a few sauces, and yes a couple Carolina Reeper pods in my possession. Thank you again PuckerButt Pepper Company. I will be posting reviews over the next couple days.

I shared some hot mustard with friends and chiliheads at a BBQ yesterday. Only recieved positive reviews. Absolutely wonderful stuff ! Can't wait to pop the lids ion the sauces.

- Mega
 
MegaSpokaneMan said:
Hey all,

I have a hot mustard, a few sauces, and yes a couple Carolina Reeper pods in my possession. Thank you again PuckerButt Pepper Company. I will be posting reviews over the next couple days.

I shared some hot mustard with friends and chiliheads at a BBQ yesterday. Only recieved positive reviews. Absolutely wonderful stuff ! Can't wait to pop the lids ion the sauces.

- Mega
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how did you get the pods?
 
Cheers Ted!

Oh, and if anybody is trying to figure out why I am waiting until Friday: I am at college right now, and the pods arrived yesterday at my house. I have them in the fridge to prevent rot, but I won't be able to film until Friday.
 
I think its a bit much to label people as haters. This is a discussion forum and everyone with an opinion has the right to voice it without being abused for it, just as pepperjoe has the right to say what he wants about the new chilie. It is a fact that without unbiased testing and a wide range of taste/heat tests, it can only be classed as opinon.
The chilie in question has only had marketing words and unsubstantiated claims attached to it up til now, and so that is all there is to talk about. Now people are getting the pods to eat, hopefully there will be test results released, and people will grow the seeds.

Lets just talk about the chilli and not the people talking about the chili ?
 
Of course I order on the 23rd and yesterday get an email about the free shipping promotion. And to top it off no shipping information from Joe's website acknowledging that my order has even shipped or been dealt with 5.50 well wasted. Guess i should have ordered through Ed. And yeah it was 5.50 because more then 1 pack ordered.
 
Sucks that you orderd early, but hell I got the email on Friday the 24th. But Ive orderd from them before and all Ive ever gotten was the email confirmation; But they have allways showed up on time... Ymmv
 
What a nice read, either or, I have bought, some, put them in the soil and will be growing 20+ plants. So I do not eat super hots, i either A. sell them, or B. give them away to friends. I grow these superhot and peppers just because i enjoying growing them.

Whats odd, i be some of the ones making the biggest issue of the cost, will be the first ones that will be willing to buy a small box of peppers.

So, we will see today when the press release comes out. To be honest, i dont recall when the morgua's came out and they were selling the for 30 bucks with a few other packs. but than again, themorgua came out of no where and really never got hyped up like these carliona reapers.

Either or, worlds hottest, not the world hottest, I will be having funy growing the peppers, Hell i eventually want to turn into a full time farmer, but just dont know where to start.
 
JesterJoker said:
Of course I order on the 23rd and yesterday get an email about the free shipping promotion. And to top it off no shipping information from Joe's website acknowledging that my order has even shipped or been dealt with 5.50 well wasted. Guess i should have ordered through Ed. And yeah it was 5.50 because more then 1 pack ordered.
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Hi JesterJoker.
With the secured order type of shopping cart softwear that we have it notify's our customer that we received their order and thanks them. However, it does not alert you of a shipping date.
Not to worry, we always ship in 3 to 4 business days, even when we are slamming busy like now.
We've beefed up our employee hours in shipping and are now turning orders in only 2.5 business days....at no extra costs for rush shipping. We're determined to make a good impression on the many new customers that will shop us for the first time.
The Free shipping was addressed in an earlier post....some one will always miss out on an offer based on when you turn it ON or turn it OFF....just like Department stores, grocery stores, Ebay, etc. Besides, I had no intention of offering Free shipping this weekend. I decided to do it at the last minute for the few THP folks that thought $9.99 for the Smokin Ed's Carolina Reaper seeds were expensive. Many other THP members disagreed with them. My opinion on that is that you can't even take your girlfriend or wife to the movies for $10 bucks...you can't even buy her a gourmet meal at McDonalds or Burger King for two for $10 Bucks. (combo meal) :P . I actually think it's a great value that gives you months of enjoyment with planting, growing, harvesting and most important eating and cooking with your peppers. Also, for those of you with an entrenprenurial spirit, sell off some pods, or seeds (right here on THP or on ebay or in your local area) ...or make hot sauce or pepper jelly, etc. for gifts and actually MAKE a few hundred bucks. Many of my customers do just that with their pepper and tomato seeds. Here's the math....you buy one pack of seeds with 12 seeds in it. 9 germinate. The average plant produces 3 dozen Carolina Reaper pods. That's 300+ pods. 300 pods x 20 seeds = 6,000 seeds. If you sell them on Ebay at $10 bucks per pack, you make a lot of money. Many many $100's of dollars. Same math if you sell the Pods.
I'm not trying to encourage a bunch of people to go on Ebay and compete with us :violin: I'm just showing folks that complaining about $10 bucks for a pack of an exciting and new seed may be a bit silly. :P Or the shipping costs. We put our orders in a larger padded envelope that costs a lot more (so the seeds aren't damaged)....and this hikes up the postage costs. Look at the amount of postage $$$ when you recieve an order. Sometimes the profit we make on shipping is the only profit with our high overhead costs (sending out 50,000 Free Catalogs yearly and Facebook advertising alone is a 6 digit expense per year).
But I STILL turned on Free Shipping to try and be a nice guy and keep almost everybody happy.
JesterJoker, thanks a million for your business and being a customer.
We appreciate you.
Here's a pic of just Fridays orders that we rushed out to the Post office today. We're slamming!
Fiery Regards,
Pepper Joe
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Remember the morugas?....the last hottest pepper. Somebody has an add trying to sell "last year's hottest peppers" nobody has replied to his ad. He had 10 boxes to sell. I am sure he felt he could "could make a couple of hundred bucks" too.

Buy to enjoy them, not to make a mint. Only 2 folks are going to do that.

Joe how long before you guys release the hotter peppers you guys got stashed away?
 
I now have 0 respect for Joe and Ed... I have posted my concerns about this pepper in this thread and stated that IMO the price was to high and that they have no published data to back up there claim. What do I get for this? I get flamed by joe in a personal message insulting me and telling me a need a "lesson in business 101". So if that's how Joe and Ed treat people that have valid concerns about the product they are selling, I want no part of their business.
 
armac said:
Remember the morugas?....the last hottest pepper. Somebody has an add trying to sell "last year's hottest peppers" nobody has replied to his ad. He had 10 boxes to sell. I am sure he felt he could "could make a couple of hundred bucks" too.

Buy to enjoy them, not to make a mint. Only 2 folks are going to do that.

Joe how long before you guys release the hotter peppers you guys got stashed away?
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X2 100% :golfclap:

qbvbsite said:
I now have 0 respect for Joe and Ed... I have posted my concerns about this pepper in this thread and stated that IMO the price was to high and that they have no published data to back up there claim. What do I get for this? I get flamed by joe in a personal message insulting me and telling me a need a "lesson in business 101". So if that's how Joe and Ed treat people that have valid concerns about the product they are selling, I want no part of their business.
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Care to post?

If a vender is bashing via pm on a poster with questions and or concerns about a product, I don't think that they should beable to get away with it.. (re FTE or Ballistic on pirate4x4) jmho
 
Dagogt I have much respect for Ed but that other dude I agree 100%
Total classless.
I was going to use a classless quote for him but I don't want to act like that. I will tell you I have been called and harassed many many time by that unmentioned person. Best to ignore him. You can chat With Ed anytime he's a really nice guy and I know he would never act like that
 
Hey,
Well if that is the case I would like to contact Ed about this, can you PM me his contact information that would be great. i figured they were in business together hence why I mentioned Ed as well.

--James
 
In the 4x4 forum world you better have all your P's and Q's lined up when calling out a company.
Ed has said that everything will be published for the public in the coming week and has invested his and I'm sure other people's money. I don't think the man has to prove anything to you guys, ...yet. It's his baby and he is handling it the way he wants to. Of course with the claim 'worlds hottest pepper' he is gonna have to back it up, but I don't think the man has to show his cards to the forum community, ...like I said, YET.
It's business people...

*what I wouldn't of done is said that I have a hotter pepper in the works. That's closed door stuff.
 
qbvbsite said:
Hey,
Well if that is the case I would like to contact Ed about this, can you PM me his contact information that would be great. i figured they were in business together hence why I mentioned Ed as well.

--James
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You can pm him here. He's on here as SmokinEd

http://thehotpepper.com/user/7232-smokined/
 
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