Just read through the whole thread. I think people are upset because of the way it has been hyped up..., and because of the nature of the product.
This new chilli has been hyped and marketed all on words. The only people who have grown it and tried it are also the only ones who are selling it. And the proof of its exceptional claims are yet to be verfied by the impartial third party scientists. Perhaps a more ethical way to handle it was to wait until the final test report and then announce its existence to the world. There would still be an exclusive release of the product.
Also they could have trusted a few respected independent growers to grow a crop and submit those pods for testing with their own. That would make any claims of "hottest ever" scoville numbers much more reputable. But they haven't done that and on another site I read something mentioning that they use stressing to get hotter pods.
Seeds aren't like a packet of ham where as soon as you open it one sniff can tell you if its gone off. If you buy a chilie seed you have to put in some effort and time before you know whether you got what you were promised, or a dud. I highly doubt anyone who purchases these seeds will be able to tell the difference between a moruga scoprion and a butch t and a carolina reaper if they ate a whole pod. Not within any acceptable tolerances for growing conditions and each plant's natural pod deviation. And will anyone buying these seeds be testing them?
So what'll happen is people will pay a premium based on the hype, (whether or not any records are awarded) and grow them and get something that looks gnarly with a big stinger and burns as hot as hell. That will be fine for the vast majority of consumers and the sellers of the new strain will make some cash for a while at least.
Ebay scammers will also appear and sell seeds called hottest ever which turn out to be jalapenos. They make their money and before a growing season time has elapsed they abandon the nickname and start a new identity. They are selling based on the pictures and words... ie. hype. These new caroliner reaper seeds are also being sold on hype. Yes they aren't actually being sold yet but people are putting their names down and are even in this thread announcing they are "sold" on them. I'm obviously not saying this is a scam and pepperjoe and puckerbutt aren't going to dissapear once their stock is gone, but pods that measure 2 mil are going to burn your face off just like a 1.4 mil and no one is going to challenge their hottest ever claim whilst they are rolling on the ground in pain. (edit: just read that spongey600 said exactly this in another thread
great minds huh)
I think people are upset at the way the marketing has been handled. And also that they didn't do it first. I doubt anyone begrudges the effort to make a dollar, just the method.
This new chilli has been hyped and marketed all on words. The only people who have grown it and tried it are also the only ones who are selling it. And the proof of its exceptional claims are yet to be verfied by the impartial third party scientists. Perhaps a more ethical way to handle it was to wait until the final test report and then announce its existence to the world. There would still be an exclusive release of the product.
Also they could have trusted a few respected independent growers to grow a crop and submit those pods for testing with their own. That would make any claims of "hottest ever" scoville numbers much more reputable. But they haven't done that and on another site I read something mentioning that they use stressing to get hotter pods.
Seeds aren't like a packet of ham where as soon as you open it one sniff can tell you if its gone off. If you buy a chilie seed you have to put in some effort and time before you know whether you got what you were promised, or a dud. I highly doubt anyone who purchases these seeds will be able to tell the difference between a moruga scoprion and a butch t and a carolina reaper if they ate a whole pod. Not within any acceptable tolerances for growing conditions and each plant's natural pod deviation. And will anyone buying these seeds be testing them?
So what'll happen is people will pay a premium based on the hype, (whether or not any records are awarded) and grow them and get something that looks gnarly with a big stinger and burns as hot as hell. That will be fine for the vast majority of consumers and the sellers of the new strain will make some cash for a while at least.
Ebay scammers will also appear and sell seeds called hottest ever which turn out to be jalapenos. They make their money and before a growing season time has elapsed they abandon the nickname and start a new identity. They are selling based on the pictures and words... ie. hype. These new caroliner reaper seeds are also being sold on hype. Yes they aren't actually being sold yet but people are putting their names down and are even in this thread announcing they are "sold" on them. I'm obviously not saying this is a scam and pepperjoe and puckerbutt aren't going to dissapear once their stock is gone, but pods that measure 2 mil are going to burn your face off just like a 1.4 mil and no one is going to challenge their hottest ever claim whilst they are rolling on the ground in pain. (edit: just read that spongey600 said exactly this in another thread
great minds huh)I think people are upset at the way the marketing has been handled. And also that they didn't do it first. I doubt anyone begrudges the effort to make a dollar, just the method.
) Ed is also sending me a pod that has a average of 2 million plus over a 3 year period. I will give a honest report on my video of how I feel. One thing the Brown Moruga I got from Pepperlover was just as hot if not hotter than any Hp22b I have had.
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