favorite Wild Varieties-What is your favorite

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Cumari
 
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Awesome JBird!



No name wild praetermissum
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Cumari Verdadeira
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Wild Pepperlover
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Here is a Rocopica from the above seeds. This plants leaf shape,fruit size and fruit per node resemble cardenasii/eximium. Completely different from the one I grew last year. That one had strong pubescens genes,even the seeds looked pubescens.

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I just ordered some CGN20800 from Judy ! The pods on this wild plant remain on the plant when fully ripe and do not fall off. It does well in containers so I will have one in a container and the other will be planted and left in the garden.
 
Hi John and Nigel, Boy you guys can really take good close ups, my little cam blurs to the point that you can't make out the flowers at all,  I wish I could get a good close up of the white flower Praet. as every time I take a look at the flowers that start off greenish with green Baccatum markings on the inside of the petals and just a tiny touch of bluish purple marks at the tips of the petals and only turns whitish as the bloom gets older, keeps me thinking it had some how crossed with a C. chinense.
I'm just now getting small pods developing it will be a while before the pods are ripe.   As I still have some dried pods I will examine the pods to see if they look like each other from the last time I grew them, so far it is still to early to tell and I might not know for sure unless I have them checked for different gene descriptions.
I had hoped for some yellow podded chiltepins, but the last of the 3 small seedlings died, so I will have to put it on my list of must haves for next year. 
I have a couple of places that I will be buying seeds from this summer, so that I know they will have what I want, as I want to grow some other more rare varieties like C. flexuosum and C. lanceolatum I will be hard pressed to find them from any of the usual vendors, so I will buy or beg seeds from here.
I notest today one little dried up flower on my Galap. but doubt that I will get a pod this year as the plants are so small and are being plagued by aphids. All of my other wilds are developing buds, so I will be getting a small amount of pods from them.
 
Very nice shots John!! As always photography is excellent as always.

That chacoense looks interesting. I never heard of it. From what region is it?

That CAP 1144 is one nerve wracking SOB! I couldn't ever get one of them to germinate and I have a friend from Finland growing it right now and it's really stunning to see how it loads up! I'll try to see if I can get his permission to share his pics.

-Walt
This is his CAP 1144, his name is Toni Airaksinen and he's also working on a database in Finnish language but you could translate as well.



-Walt
 
Vegas_Chili said:
Very nice shots John!! As always photography is excellent as always. That chacoense looks interesting. I never heard of it. From what region is it?That CAP 1144 is one nerve wracking SOB! I couldn't ever get one of them to germinate and I have a friend from Finland growing it right now and it's really stunning to see how it loads up! I'll try to see if I can get his permission to share his pics.-Walt This is his CAP 1144, his name is Toni Airaksinen and he's also working on a database in Finnish language but you could translate as well.



-Walt
Thanks!

I am familiar with the Finnish forum. I frequent quite a few European ones,just not enough time to participate in them. The language barriers aren't as bad as one would think. Most europeans speak better english than Americans! I am active in an Italian one and try to devote some time to it.

I have run across some of the work Toni has done,not on a personal level with him though. The CAP 1144 gave me some problems last year germinating and also growing. It was medium sized for this species which typically grows very large.There is not much diversity in praetermissum fruit,only bullet shaped or round. This one has very round fruit.
 
After seeing all your guys pics i'm hooked. Anyone want to recommend a couple of wilds I should try and procure? My plan would be to start seeds now indoors, overwinter then go outside next season.  Depending on size I would have room for 3-4 plants to do this with. Temps get around 55-58F here in winter in my overwintering room so need to factor that in. Pubes loved it.  So if one of the guy's here thats has tried these would suggest something rare and awesome I should try and hunt down it would be much appreciated.  thanks for your time
 
CAP1478
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Cumari Flibu. Usually 2-3 flowers per node with praets,this guy is pushing 4. The hairiest one I have grown so far. The plant is literally white.
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Received seeds labled "Unknown". Very light colored corolla. Thin purple ridge around the edges and the inner spotting is almost nil.
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CGN 19198
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I struggled to get a good photo of this flower, but it is from PI 439528 seed. Wayright very kindly sent me the seeds. It is labelled as C.baccatum var baccatum on the ARS-GRIN database, although there is no photo of the flower. It does say it was reclassified from C.baccatum var praetermissum in 2006. 
 
To me it`s a dead ringer for C.praetermissum. Beautiful plants, as well!
 
 
 
I struggled to get a good photo of this flower, but it is from PI 439528 seed. Wayright very kindly sent me the seeds. It is labelled as C.baccatum var baccatum on the ARS-GRIN database, although there is no photo of the flower. It does say it was reclassified from C.baccatum var praetermissum in 2006. 
 
To me it`s a dead ringer for C.praetermissum. Beautiful plants, as well!
 
 



Nigel how's the growth habit and how pubescent is it? It could be the same as PI 441654? It's supposed to be Baccatum var Baccatum, but the flowers are exactly as Praetermissums and purple.

-Vidal
 
FreeportBum said:
After seeing all your guys pics i'm hooked. Anyone want to recommend a couple of wilds I should try and procure? My plan would be to start seeds now indoors, overwinter then go outside next season.  Depending on size I would have room for 3-4 plants to do this with. Temps get around 55-58F here in winter in my overwintering room so need to factor that in. Pubes loved it.  So if one of the guy's here thats has tried these would suggest something rare and awesome I should try and hunt down it would be much appreciated.  thanks for your time
Have a look at Pepperlover.com and Rainbowchiliseeds.com. They have an excellent selection of wild Capsicums and both send out excellent quality seeds.
 
The seeds of some species are a pain to germinate and take 20-40 days, occasionally longer. 
 
I`d recommend a wild Tepin or Calusa Indian Mound (C.annuum), a wild C.baccatum, any C.praetermissum and a wild chinense such as Wild Brazil.
 
Be prepared to start talking in letters and numbers, rather than normal English; CGN 21503, PI 439528, CAP 501 etc etc etc 
Vegas_Chili said:
Nigel how's the growth habit and how pubescent is it? It could be the same as PI 441654? It's supposed to be Baccatum var Baccatum, but the flowers are exactly as Praetermissums and purple.

-Vidal
It isn`t nearly as pubescent as PI 441654. In fact, the growth is indistinguishable froPI 596059. I have 3 plants of each and I have to look at the labels to tell them apart. PI 596059 is also supposed to be C.baccatum var baccatum and I have buds on the plants, but no open flowers yet.
 
Thanks Nigel for taking the time to reply it's much appreciated. From going over this thread and a few others and reading peoples comments and pics I have a short list of seeds I think I am interested in selecting a few to try and locate. If any of the guys here that have grown any of these that would chime in on any tips/comments that would be great. 
 
CAP 691
 
CGN 24332
 
CGN 19198
 
CGN 21502
 
CGN 20800
 
C.Rhomboideum
 
C. Lanceolatum
 
C. Flexuosum
 
C.Praetermissum
 
Charapita yellows 
 
I have grown or am growing all of those except charapita. There are only a select few "true" wild capsicum that we can get our mitts on. Most of the stuff is semi-domesticated including C.praetermissum which we toss in because it is rare to us that live outside the Atlantic Forest(mata atlantica).

Do some research on the size of some of the stuff you like. Praets get gigantic,either super tall and bushy,or just bushy. Sowing this early may cause you some issues. The other stuff is managable indoors and some of those actually do better indoors. Flexuosum will grow in a mushroom mine. This winter I had mine next to a 2 foot wide basement window and I had to prune it regularly.

The other stuff like lance,rhomb and the eximium that you listed will all do good under limited flouro lighting and window lighting. I think that is how you grow inside? Can't remember. The rhomb is one you can prune continuosly and it will keep growing compact. CAP691 is a little bush and won't beat up your space.
Nigel said:
I struggled to get a good photo of this flower, but it is from PI 439528 seed. Wayright very kindly sent me the seeds. It is labelled as C.baccatum var baccatum on the ARS-GRIN database, although there is no photo of the flower. It does say it was reclassified from C.baccatum var praetermissum in 2006. [/size]
 
To me it`s a dead ringer for C.praetermissum. Beautiful plants, as well![/size]
 
 
Sexy!
 
Thanks prodigal_son much appreciated. I start seeds under 600watts of T5 then go into my sun room for the fall/winter.  I like to chop them back just about two months before they go outside. The largest pube I have from you as of this morning has over 4 dozen pods on it with tons more flowers.   :cheers:
 
What's everyone's favorite wild for flavor? how about heat? thanks 
 
FreeportBum said:
Thanks Nigel for taking the time to reply it's much appreciated. From going over this thread and a few others and reading peoples comments and pics I have a short list of seeds I think I am interested in selecting a few to try and locate. If any of the guys here that have grown any of these that would chime in on any tips/comments that would be great. 
 
CAP 691
 
CGN 24332
 
CGN 19198
 
CGN 21502
 
CGN 20800
 
C.Rhomboideum
 
C. Lanceolatum
 
C. Flexuosum
 
C.Praetermissum
 
Charapita yellows 
I`ve grown all of those except flexuosum and Cap 691, a number for the first time this year. 
 
The only problems will be Rhomb/Lance seeds are incredible tiny. If they come up with the seed cap I find it impossible to get it off with out killing them, at least so far. Some of them grow pretty slow to start with, too, but that`s not a problem other than with patience  :P
 
None of those are too difficult to germinate and most will grow well indoors, as John mentioned. 
 
Nigel said:
 
The only problems will be Rhomb/Lance seeds are incredible tiny. If they come up with the seed cap I find it impossible to get it off with out killing them, at least so far.
I noticed that even with successful removals the plants didn't grow. All the helmet free seedlings thrived. Tried deeper planting and same thing. It's almost like a sign that the seed was genetically bad.

It probably would help to be extremely :high: when doing this. Nigel is right,seeds are the size of a pinhead.

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The CAP691(whether you consider it a wild or not) is a cool little plant. I am growing it for and isolation project this season. It has yellow anthers which is very cool for a C.chinense. I initially had germination issues with the seeds and the one that sprouted was less than vigorous! Finally starting to look like a plant.

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