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overwintering Winter-Summer in OZ "Comparison" / Aussie Blabberers

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I thought about it for maybe a second but with so many buckets I don't have the time, money or giveashitness to do that. The newer ones have a more draining mix but the old ones will have to plug on.
How about replacing the potting mix of one or two of your favourite plants?
 
How about replacing the potting mix of one or two of your favourite plants?

Yeah I might try that but so far the plants are thriving more in my absence. I'm actually paranoid about doing anything because of my tendency to over fertilize and over water.

I was going to give them a light foliar feed with seaweed, fertilizer and gogo juice today because they've just been washed clean by the rain. Still have a few bags of potting mix I can use without having to buy anything else, and a huge think of perlite. But I am seriously busy upto xmas. Might find time to do one more big pot up before new year.
 
:woohoo: Got my 2000 worms today. Black gold here i come! :hell:




Edit: Heres the ebay link where i got them from. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320804605358?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649.
 
Sounds interesting, Micca! Where might one obtain these stimulants that will improve their roots?

Well, the rain is here and I've got mixed emotions. I can finally start saving some rain water but damn my plants are in serious need of some good weather! Pretty sure I've been overwatering lately and really need the soil to dry out now. Not helping that it's been strangely cool the last few days either.....

*sigh*

This season really needs to start doing something now!

I have only seen them at a hyrdoponic store. They are a bit expensive but you only use a very small amount.
Here is a link to super thrive super thrive

Micca
 
Gaaaah, c'mon! Not sure at this point but I think I might now have Tomato Russet Mite...

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I think I dealt with them my first season and if so, they are 1000 times worse than Broad Mite...

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Broad Mites screw your plants, Russet Mites absolutely :censored: them.
 
Not looking very good there Gas :(
Nuke their asses!!!

Micca
Yep, looks like I might have to pull out the old Rogor after all.

The last pic is one of my babies from my first season. It started off looking like the plant in the first pic and within a matter of days, it turned into that and then was completely dead a day or two later. Brutal. :(

Just gave the two badly affected ones a good test Sulfuring (have only used Sulfur on larger plants before) to see if it doesn't hurt or kill 'em, and if all is good, will hit all my babies with it. I had planned on doing a whole bunch of transporting and transplanting over at my alternate grow location this coming weekend but now I'm not so sure until I get this sorted out. Last thing I want to do is take over the bloody mites as well! :eek:

Really wanted to get the transplanting ball rolling before Christmas so I could take some time off to relax. Still probably can, I guess, just means I definitely have to pull out the Rogor.... :think:

Thats :censored: gassy. You need to invest in a box a co2 tank!
Haha, I think I recall you saying something about that once before. What exactly does it involve? :think:
 
Dude.... more mites! :(

Do you live next to a poultry farm or something? If they are so prevalent in your environment and keep coming back you're gonna have to find a way to grow them in a quarrantined capsule.... or be forever dosing with chemicals.
 
Hmmm, doing a bit of research and two things don't add up. The first is that Russet Mites usually start from the bottom of the plant and work their way up, not from the top as is in my case. And second, Russet Mite favour warm, dry conditions.... and not much of that going on here ATM (it has been fluctuating between cool/wet and hot/humid).

Dude.... more mites! :(

Do you live next to a poultry farm or something? If they are so prevalent in your environment and keep coming back you're gonna have to find a way to grow them in a quarrantined capsule.... or be forever dosing with chemicals.
After doing a bit more research, I'm not quite so sure it even is mites now. I'm wondering if maybe it's something as simple as overwatering or pH issues or temp. fluctuations, etc, etc.

So tired now and gonna hit the sack but will continue to research tomorrow. In the meantime, anyone have any ideas what might cause curling like that (especially on the newer growth) and death of the new growth?

Is there like a feature of this board where if you add another reply within a certain time frame since your last post, it just adds it to your previous post?

Looks like there must be.... :lol:

Or maybe if you post twice in a row, it just adds it to your previous post? Somebody else try it! Reply to this topic, then reply again.
 
Hmmm, doing a bit of research and two things don't add up. The first is that Russet Mites usually start from the bottom of the plant and work their way up, not from the top as is in my case. And second, Russet Mite favour warm, dry conditions.... and not much of that going on here ATM (it has been fluctuating between cool/wet and hot/humid).


After doing a bit more research, I'm not quite so sure it even is mites now. I'm wondering if maybe it's something as simple as overwatering or pH issues or temp. fluctuations, etc, etc.

So tired now and gonna hit the sack but will continue to research tomorrow. In the meantime, anyone have any ideas what might cause curling like that (especially on the newer growth) and death of the new growth?

Is there like a feature of this board where if you add another reply within a certain time frame since your last post, it just adds it to your previous post?

Looks like there must be.... :lol:

Or maybe if you post twice in a row, it just adds it to your previous post? Somebody else try it! Reply to this topic, then reply again.

There was a Diagnostic Flow-Chart for Common Nutrient Deficiency Symptoms posted a while back:
when a plant is calcium deficient, the margins tend grow at a slower rate than that of midrib or center portion of the leaf. thats why you tend to see distortion with calcium.

we can infer its not nitrogen because nitrogen is mobile and begins at the bottom of the plant and moves towards the top. we can infer it is not magnesium because mag also shows up on older leaves first, it also tends to show up in the leaf margins first as interveinal chlorosis.

this imo is the best flowchart for deficiency symptopms. keep in mind some of these symptoms can also be caused by PH etc.
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i dont think anyone here is claiming its 100% calcium deficiency, or at least i am not. it just seems to strongly resemble it.

IMO you should take stock of what exactly you are giving the plants using that website i linked. your fertilizer bottles should have all the necessary information. use saltmix.xls or that website i linked.

The chart doesn't cover the symptoms of nutrient toxicities. Symptoms of Deficiencies and Toxicities by Element is another one I keep handy due to the information about the impact of excess nutrients.

I've found an Impact of Mineral Deficiency Stress article that lists some causes in addition to describing the symptoms of the deficiencies.

It would be worth experimenting with some plants by watering them with a solution that has been adjusted to ~6.4.
 
That Superthrive sounds like some hardcore stuff! Apart from the whiter, healthier roots, have you noticed any difference in plant growth?

I've used Super-Thrive for a couple of years now, from seed germination thru the outdoor maintainance with all types of plants. It's not a fert replacement, but it does give the "B-12" shot to the plants. I don't foliar feed with it, it just gets mix into the other brews and gets "drizzled" into the soil.

Greg
 
Yep, looks like I might have to pull out the old Rogor after all.

The last pic is one of my babies from my first season. It started off looking like the plant in the first pic and within a matter of
pdays, it turned into that and then was completely dead a day or two later. Brutal. :(

Just gave the two badly affected ones a good test Sulfuring (have only used Sulfur on larger plants before) to see if it doesn't hurt or kill 'em, and if all is good, will hit all my babies with it. I had planned on doing a whole bunch of transporting and transplanting over at my alternate grow location this coming weekend but now I'm not so sure until I get this sorted out. Last thing I want to do is take over the bloody mites as well! :eek:

Really wanted to get the transplanting ball rolling before Christmas so I could take some time off to relax. Still probably can, I guess, just means I definitely have to pull out the Rogor.... :think:


Haha, I think I recall you saying something about that once before. What exactly does it involve? :think:
It involves putting your plant into a sealed box and then introducing co2 until 10,000 ppm is reached. It kills spider mites DEAD so i assume it would work with other mites. As long as they need oxygen to survive that is.
 
Is there like a feature of this board where if you add another reply within a certain time frame since your last post, it just adds it to your previous post?

Looks like there must be.... :lol:

Or maybe if you post twice in a row, it just adds it to your previous post? Somebody else try it! Reply to this topic, then reply again.

Yep. I posted a few responses the other day which were over about half an hour and they were bundled together!

Micca
 
Yep. I posted a few responses the other day which were over about half an hour and they were bundled together!

Micca
So if i do this..

....and then this...

...it gets put into one post. Ingenious!
Anti-whore System. :mope:

There was a Diagnostic Flow-Chart for Common Nutrient Deficiency Symptoms posted a while back:


The chart doesn't cover the symptoms of nutrient toxicities.

It would be worth experimenting with some plants by watering them with a solution that has been adjusted to ~6.4.
Thanks, harry. Definitely helpful in trying to determine whether or not a deficiency may be the culprit. A great starting point for investigating any new problem really!

I've used Super-Thrive for a couple of years now, from seed germination thru the outdoor maintainance with all types of plants. It's not a fert replacement, but it does give the "B-12" shot to the plants. I don't foliar feed with it, it just gets mix into the other brews and gets "drizzled" into the soil.

Greg
Definitely gonna give this stuff a burl! Gonna hit up my local hydro shops this weekend.

It involves putting your plant into a sealed box and then introducing co2 until 10,000 ppm is reached. It kills spider mites DEAD so i assume it would work with other mites. As long as they need oxygen to survive that is.
Sounds a bit extreme... but I like it! :D :lol:

Does it DEAD the eggs too though? (I dunno, do eggs need oxygen?)
 
From what i have read it eradicates all mites so i assume the eggs do need oxygen. You have to hold them at that ppm for about two hours i think.
 
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