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overwintering Winter-Summer in OZ "Comparison" / Aussie Blabberers
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They are pumpin', MM. 
TIL that spraying Pyrethrum does not end well for the sensitive new growth of C. praetermissum.... 
Thanks dude but I'll survive. Just wingening about the first real hot spell since last summer.
Was really hot today but I used all my force of will to not water my plants because all of my growing problems stem from overwatering. They all look like fine.
The Habanero Red which is my bushiest plant with a massive thick stem is still dropping flowers. I'm wondering if there might be some sort of accidental cross and sterile stuff going on? Not sure how that works but it's growth is excellent compared to all others and its putting out tons of flowers but every single one is dropping. I don't have any similar chinense plants to compare but other annums and baccatums etc. are setting pods easily.
In my short experience with the chinense var. they seem to produce much less pollen then the other varieties which coupled with the heat might not be conducive to good pollination conditions. Baccatum and Annuum's crank the pollen and I think are simply much better reproductive plants in general with bigger flowers to boot.
Yeah my annuums are in full sun all day, no problem putting up with the sun, and they are podding fine. My chinenses in pots have all the leaves get toasted, shrivel and die if in the sun too long, even though they've been hardened off and spent hours per day for a month in the direct spring sunshine.
With my older chinenses from last year, one never produced a pod all last summer, (heaps of flowers, all dropped off), it had some pods in spring but stopped podding 3 weeks ago.
Another of the old chinense plants from last year is in partial shade and podding fine though. And none of the new chinense seedlings from this year have produced yet either.
Chinense plants are slow, late, prefer partial shade, and hate temps over 30C IMHO.
I have no idea how milk_man got all his happy in full sun at the top of this page. As I mentioned before my chinense are in pots and get 2 hours of morning sun (7-9), and 2 hours of evening sun(4-6). Yesterday they got a bit of 2pm sun and they were severely toasted, wilted, lost leaves etc.
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The split is nothing special, a 3.5kW fixed speed conventional kmart homemaker brand, I bought 3 for $440 each 4 years ago to fit into the last dero dump slated for demo place I lived in. This current dero dump slated for demo only has 2 bedrooms, so I have one of them spare. The other two are installed here and working fine for what they are, professionally installed originally by me, decommissioned and re-installed by me! They've actually been more reliable than any other chinese no name brand (that normally has their compressor PSC capacitors fail after a few years), and I fix more major brand stuff like fujitsu that's broken down ever day. Never had to do something to repair these.
Pretty sure they are made by the AUX factory in china that makes the 'SHARP' brand a/cs, that's probably why. No electrical work needed, indoor has a GPO plug so just run and extension lead down the wall.
With my older chinenses from last year, one never produced a pod all last summer, (heaps of flowers, all dropped off), it had some pods in spring but stopped podding 3 weeks ago.
Another of the old chinense plants from last year is in partial shade and podding fine though. And none of the new chinense seedlings from this year have produced yet either.
Chinense plants are slow, late, prefer partial shade, and hate temps over 30C IMHO.
I have no idea how milk_man got all his happy in full sun at the top of this page. As I mentioned before my chinense are in pots and get 2 hours of morning sun (7-9), and 2 hours of evening sun(4-6). Yesterday they got a bit of 2pm sun and they were severely toasted, wilted, lost leaves etc.
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You sure, even I use an a/c a few days of the year and on hot nights. Also kids are terrible sometimes when it's hot.Thanks dude but I'll survive. Just wingening about the first real hot spell since last summer.
The split is nothing special, a 3.5kW fixed speed conventional kmart homemaker brand, I bought 3 for $440 each 4 years ago to fit into the last dero dump slated for demo place I lived in. This current dero dump slated for demo only has 2 bedrooms, so I have one of them spare. The other two are installed here and working fine for what they are, professionally installed originally by me, decommissioned and re-installed by me! They've actually been more reliable than any other chinese no name brand (that normally has their compressor PSC capacitors fail after a few years), and I fix more major brand stuff like fujitsu that's broken down ever day. Never had to do something to repair these.
Pretty sure they are made by the AUX factory in china that makes the 'SHARP' brand a/cs, that's probably why. No electrical work needed, indoor has a GPO plug so just run and extension lead down the wall.
What was the origin of the Habanero Red? I grew a number of plants last season from seed saved from a plant I purchased from Bunnings.Thanks dude but I'll survive. Just wingening about the first real hot spell since last summer.
The Habanero Red which is my bushiest plant with a massive thick stem is still dropping flowers. I'm wondering if there might be some sort of accidental cross and sterile stuff going on? Not sure how that works but it's growth is excellent compared to all others and its putting out tons of flowers but every single one is dropping. I don't have any similar chinense plants to compare but other annums and baccatums etc. are setting pods easily.
Two plants I kept in pots produced only 2 or 3 pods. A plant in the garden appeared healthy but did not set any fruit until February.
When I used a brush this season to pollinate Fatalii flowers I found an abundance of pollen. I seem to have hit the right conditions for a number of C. Chinense plants to set fruit. The Fatalii, a Habanero, a Trinidad Scorpion, a 7Pot and a Maraba Yellow plant have been setting flowers to fruit. The Habanero Red until recently was failing to produce fruit.
I suspect the depleted potting mix that was my bane last season is working to my advantage this season.
The Habanero Red was ordered online from eden seeds which does lots of seeds, although not chillies especially but I've only had good results with all sorts of vegetables and herbs from them. My first chilli seed sown for this season was a Jalapeno also from them and its got a lot of pods on it.
My theory was to buy any well known vareities from a non chilli specialising yet reputable vendor and I would get far more quantity of seed than the 5, 10 or 20 or so seeds chilli specialists offer. If it is a well known variety you can be reasonably sure of its authenticity. So far this has been proven correct.
I got some Orange Habaneros from Bunnings bought seedlings last year and they grew well and were hot! I didn't think to save the seed but I have been with most pods since then.
Judging by their description it's not the same as what I'm growing:
The fruits start a light green colour on mine. Although I have it down as a Caribbean Red I'm will not be certain of its identity unless I obtain Caribbean Red seeds from a good source and grow them for comparison.
The orange Habanero I have that is doing well was grown from Fatalii seed. I don't mind that it's producing runts at the moment provided it produces many of them. I'll see how it responds to being in a larger pot.
I didn't sow any of the Bolivian Rojo seeds. My last batch of seeds sowed on October 12 and October 13 was Chocolate Trinidad Scorpion, Scotch Bonnet and Fatalii seeds.
Hey Gas,
I have given this a try in the past with something called Amgrow Harvest. It was hard to tell if it worked but I did have some good crops that year. I also used it to try and recover some plants that were not looking too good but didn't do too good(I think the plants were too far gone!)
I haven't used it this year. Instead I have been using a root stimulant(like Rhizatonic or Bloom Roots) and something called Super Thrive(hormone based and is not Fertilizer like Thrive is) on my seedlings and have been amazed at how white the roots have been looking.
Micca
Now you are starting to get the idea of what the Chinenses like
It seems to be Perths direct Summer sun they really hate. It is now becomming shade cloth time!
Ahh nice to have a thunder storm today and break up some of that heat we have been having.
Micca
Hey let me know if you find any worm juice Pablo. You can get worm castings from Green Life Soil Co in Belleview but would also like to know about worm juice. There is an online store in WA that sells Jizz but you have to order a fair bit
Micca
Does anyone have photos of Red 7Pot plant with green pods?Is there anyone growing the Seven Pot Red with developing pods?
Seven Pot Red
I was expecting the pods to be wedged shaped and taper to a point. The pod pictured is the largest of the lot that aren't all that pointy at this stage.
It was good to get a thunderstorm to break up the heat. But then it rained steadily all freakin day! and is supposed to tomorrow! My plants are already suffering from my overwatering. Looks like this season will be a long haul if I'm to get anything. The massive table top covered in pods will hopefully happen in autumn if at all.
Sorry to hear that mega.
I brought my potted plants into some sort of cover last night, (clear perspex awning/verandah, but a ton of holes in it from the hail storm last year), so keeps them out of all the rain, but it's 50% holes so they still get wet.
I brought them in last night, that's when I noticed the aphids, which are new, but maybe they come out at night and just got a chance to see them, or maybe I was lucky with my timing and they are the first new infestation.
Anyway, had to deal with the aphids last night, and had to deal with heaps of slugs and the odd snail tonight because of the rain. We even had a bit of hail here, I got my work ute written off last year because of the massive hail storm, so a bit of a nervous moment worried about my new ute, the plants in the ground, and how many more holes that will appear in that veranda awning for a few moments there when the hail started up, but it stopped hailing after 5 or so minutes. See you elsewhere (where I go by fo3oz). Obviously because of the weather I didn't get paid work as well today, as most of my work is on roof tops.
Yeah it has been a real biatch! I managed to run around the night before and try to put my overwatered ones under the eves of the house(what a mission).
Mmmmm table top of pods now that sounds good. Hope they come good for ya!
Micca
Here's a photo of the front and back view of the fertiliser that one of my orange Rocoto plants in somewhat depleted potting mix:
Manutec Granular Fertiliser for Fruit and Flower
I'm now experimenting with the Aji Omnicolor plant that didn't recover as well from winter using the fertiliser. My best Aji Omnicolor that I'm feeding with Amgrow Nitrosol is doing well as is the best Locato. Kudos to JungleRain for the tip about Nitrosol.
Manutec Granular Fertiliser for Fruit and Flower
I'm now experimenting with the Aji Omnicolor plant that didn't recover as well from winter using the fertiliser. My best Aji Omnicolor that I'm feeding with Amgrow Nitrosol is doing well as is the best Locato. Kudos to JungleRain for the tip about Nitrosol.
Have you thought about replacing the potting mix with one that doesn't retain as much water after the showers pass?
Sounds interesting, Micca! Where might one obtain these stimulants that will improve their roots?
Well, the rain is here and I've got mixed emotions. I can finally start saving some rain water but damn my plants are in serious need of some good weather! Pretty sure I've been overwatering lately and really need the soil to dry out now. Not helping that it's been strangely cool the last few days either.....
*sigh*
This season really needs to start doing something now!
I thought about it for maybe a second but with so many buckets I don't have the time, money or giveashitness to do that. The newer ones have a more draining mix but the old ones will have to plug on.