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Earth Hour -Who's in?

Omri said:
I can see from my window a power plant that uses both hydro and coal. they produce as much as possible from hydro and cover the rest with standard coal.
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Yeah, our local electric company does much the same, but they burn natural gas instead of coal to make up the shortage.
 
rainbowberry said:
Count me in Bent. We get so many power cuts in my village when it's windy anyway I won't notice much difference. Had a power cut only yesterday.
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Is a power cut a power outage? You know, when the power goes off at your house?
 
imaguitargod said:
: just jumps into the argument :

We're all going to die anyways and probably soon....

: jumps out of argument and runs away :
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Is that direct from your Alien Overlords?
 
Omri said:
I edited my comment. :oops:
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Apparently I was on the phone then, and didn't catch the edit. Apologies.

The point would still be that hydro-electric power plants and nuclear power plants cannot meet demand, except for possibly in a few places like Canada.

I just remembered, too, that during last summer's drought, the nuclear power plant near us was in danger of having to shut down. There were concerns that there wasn't going to be enough water to run it.
 
Pam said:
Is a power cut a power outage? You know, when the power goes off at your house?
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Yes a power outage, we normally call it a power cut, when the you run round to your neighbours house to ask if they've got electricity because you don't want to be the only house that's without power in case it's just a problem with your house.
 
I switched to 100% wind/hydro electrical 3 years ago.

I drive a hybrid. I realize that it's not environmental to create the batteries, but I'm hoping that I'm investing in a technology that will evolve. We already know gasoline and cars with poor mileage is a bad choice, so even if a hybrid isn't IDEAL, it's a step in the right direction. So until I can get that Aptera I've had my eye on (google it), I'm going hybrid. 50mpg is nice on the wallet, too.

I buy all my food from organic suppliers and farmers markets.

I purchase clothes made in union shops, or american made.

The only things I could do at this point is:

1. Switch to electric heat (natural gas right now), but I can't afford it quite yet.
2. Stop eating meat (livestock raised for consumption is tragically bad for the environment and our water supplies).

I like to think I live mindfully of others. I try not to funnel my money into industries that are destroying the world or profiting from human misery. So I don't watch the news either ;)

Even if you don't do the lights-out thing (I'm sure I won't), it's nice that everyone WANTS to do something, whether they agree on what's helpful or not doesn't matter as much as the fact that our global mindset is changing for the better.

High-fives all around!
 
I drive a 25 year old car that goes like a bat out of hell and still gets 27 mpg...and it's paid for.

I smoke cigarettes, drink beer, and enjoy a/c. In the winter, as long as I'm warm, I don't really care where the heat is coming from.

I wash my car and water my lawn in the summer, and my wife drives a big SUV. I play drums and use wood sticks, wood drums (with mylar drum heads), and a brass/nickel/copper cymbals.

I removed the water restrictor in my low-flow shower head so I can have a little pressure and not spend an eternity trying to get the shampoo out of my hair and soap off my body.

I use paper towels and newspaper to clean glass with high ammonia cleaner. I don't really care where my clothes come from as long as they fit and I don't look ridiculous.

I make hot sauce using electricity and bottle it in glass bottles with paper labels and plastic shrink bands for your safety.

I grill with charcoal, and smoke meats using propane and wood chips.

My trash bags are made of plastic as well as most of my computer and other electronic gadgets.

If I leave the house in the evening, I let a few lights on so would be criminals think twice before breaking in and stealing everything I worked so hard for.

I suppose I could use a straight razor to shave, but that's a hassle, so I use disposable blades
 
My buddy was telling me in Korea you pay more for take-out at Mcdonald's and delivery restaurants bring real dishes and pick them up later on. For a while he couldn't figure out why people were leaving dirty dishes outside their apartment doors, and then they would dissapear.
 
That is pretty cool Potowie, people here would screw that up. Kids would steal the dishes, or people would keep them.

From what I understand, just using paper carry-out boxes like chinese, instead os styrofoam would have a large impact.

Then again, only sit down restaraunts use styrofoam for take home.
 
cheezy - you're correct I sort of crapped on the idea of turning the lights off for 1 hour, because I dont believe its gonna make a huge statement about global warming.
sorry for raining on bents parade, just think theres better methods that will work vs people taking just 1 hour out of their life then go right back to their normal routine


Omri said:
Very few places in the world can use hydro power alone.
Again the amount of power is not enough to cover the entire consumption, so more use will encourage more pollution.
Ever heard of nuclear waste
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I dont know the numbers as to what each energy source can produce.
yes I've heard of nuclear waste, people keep getting all worked up about it, but its not like theres nuclear accidents often.
what the last one was in 1986 ? other than the russian nuclear sub that went down in the ocean 5 years ago ? not even sure its considered a nuclear accident dont think any leaked out ?

but yet those same people dont even lift a finger or think about when it comes to all the other chemicals going into the earth from their everyday products they use & buy or how those productsare made.

example: anti-freeze, motor oil going into the waterways or your drinking water, the chemicals from making plastic or whatever & then they just throw them away, burning plastics rubber tires etc.....



I'm all for making earth better but sometimes going green is not all cracked up as people are led to believe. case in point ethanol gas.
 
chilehunter said:
I'm all for making earth better but sometimes going green is not all cracked up as people are led to believe. case in point ethanol gas.
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I don't think it's so much as going "green" being bad but rather how ignorant people(as a group in general) can really be about things and just rely on the government(and media's) hype about ethanol as "green" being bad. Going green does not mean you have to include and or use ethanol(which, amusingly, is not really that green at all.....contrary to what the government and media hype is all about).
 
Thanks to my computer being down, I've been able to stay out of this thread (which is a good thing, trust me); but I think this statement will be agreeable by most level-headed people.

The shift toward ethanol isn't so much about being green as much as it is towards self-sufficecy. The US's petrolium reserves are more geared toward lubricants rather than gasoline; due to the fact our reserves are generally heavier, longer chain hydrocarbons compared to the oil reserves of the Middle East, and coastal areas.

We can produce ethanol, and by producing it ourselves we reduce our need to import gasoline grade (light) crude. Contrary to popular belief, ethanol and octane both combust to carbon dioxide and water. It's all the other impurities that do the most environmental damage.

As an aside, Sickmont's cookie monster avatar is the coolest avatar on THP.
 
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